Sirfiroth Wrote:
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> > Winches only move things laterally while on
> the
> > ground?
>
> of course not!

Well that's good because your response read differently.


> > Who's expert opinion is this?
>
> I will supply you with a copy of the report for
> the $1,300.00 I paid for it 12 years ago!

I asked who not what did they send you to support their claim. The fact they got money out of you for it isn't my problem. BUT you are the one saying this report is proof against his ability so either show it, name it, or drop it.
Some have given you life-experience based proof it would work and you debate against it with bought proof.

Some argued that flight was impossible too.

> >You raise the block
> > to the top of a tripod made of three 60ft
> poles
> > and tip it over under control. How far do
> you
> > think the block would travel?
>
> I believe you might have a problem with the 6-10
> inch poles in that position supporting even 5-10
> ton stone let alone a 30 ton stone they would snap
> like toothpicks.

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Maybe but probably not with the blocks raised up to the heights of the tower. Raising a 30 ton stone straight up enough to get rollers(or sled with rollers) under it doesn't require tilting the tripod.
What 30 ton block was raised and placed up high? Which specific ones are you talking about?

One pole shear load strength impressive: [text.broadbandreports.com]

After hunting around on the internet for info I came across this site: [www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

A few good things came from it.
1. Coral runs about 125 lbs. per cubic foot.
2. He had a differential block(and tackle).
3. Most weight values seemed to be exaggerated(9 ton "door" more like 5.59 ton, wall sections about 6 tons).
4. the 30 ton block you are talking about is on the ground as part of the moon fountain.
5.

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According to one source,5 the castle tower is a two-story monolith that housed Ed’s workshop and living quarters. (How can a monolith have two stories? The tower and the monolith are two different structures.) A photo of the tower shows that its walls contain at least four layers of blocks, each block weighing 4 to 9 tons. The roof of the tower consists of 30 blocks, each weighing about one ton

> > Not true. You can place the block next to
> wall,
> > the two legs of the tripod that are braced
> > together parallel to the wall, winch up the
> block
> > to highest lift, have the third leg attached
> to a
> > pulley anchored in ground, have another
> winch
> > attached to either the block or the top of
> the
> > tripod and pull the block/tripod towards the
> > wall(leaning it over the wall) thereby
> laterally
> > moving the block much more then your 2-3
> feet.
>
> Ed did not have that kind of equipment, Ed had
> only simple pulleys and winches and chains.

Yes. And?

That is all you need to move the blocks and tripods.You think 50 ton cranes and possisble anti-gravity devices, I think practical man ingenuity and simple tools.


> You are evidently not aware of the loads Ed's
> tackle was able to accommodate?

More likely you aren't aware and are mistaken about the weight of the blocks(i.e. 30 ton on ground not in tower) and abilities of his chains, tripods, differential chain block, and ingenuity.


> You should run your ideas by a civil engineer, as
> I have done!

No thanks! I was raised to hold on to the $1300 and get my info for free or on the cheap!

>Please be sure to have all of your
> facts in line, wouldn't want any miscalculations
> now would we!

Like the "9 ton door" or 30 ton blocks above ground?


>The tools that Ed had were only
> simple pulleys and winches and chains.

Yes, and? Again you seem to equate simple with inadequate. Castle walls used to be brought down with shovels and fire( i.e. sappers). I'm sure a photon torpedo could take out the wall too but we don't have those do we?

>The
> equipment he had was not strong enough to lift the
> great stones,

Seems that might be why they are on the ground and not 15-20 feet up in the air. Standing the 25-40 foot blocks do not need you raising them completely off the ground.

> some of the coral stones that he
> built with weighed 30 tons.

Which are on the ground.

> To-date no scientists
> have been able to offer a plausible explanation on
> how he did it.

Funny thing though I bet you put the scientists you are talking about in an enclosed area big enough to duplicate Coral Castle, give them a limited timeframe to complete it using the same simple tools Ed L. used, and tell them "If you fail to complete this you will be shot dead but if you succeed you will have the ultimate lab with all the funding you need for your projects!" and these scientists will show you a way.

>Now if you know of a scientist or
> civil engineer that can demonstrate how it was
> done please have them speak up and put an end to
> all of the speculation!

There have been "ways of how it was done" shown to you but since we haven't spent $1300 on it I guess it isn't as good as your proof.
I will look around for a civil engineer and see if he has time to play "common sense denial" on here.

>
> At least you tried to offer solutions.

I did offer solutions but none that you would accept. With the new info I found on the website posted it appears even more likely correct. Besides 28 years for one man to move around coral blocks that could be cut with an ax or simple saw and stacked up, TWICE, does not lend itself as proof that this was a 24/7 job for him but a desire in stone done during his spare time.

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo

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