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May 13, 2024, 10:49 am UTC    
February 03, 2008 03:44PM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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> Some of these signs are unclear so its difficult
> to know for certain what they are but this is my
> take on it:
>
>
> The bird at the top of the pyramid may be G14,
> 'vulture', used in the word for 'mother'.
> Alternatively, G14a, 'vulture on basket',
> determinative in the name of the goddess Nekhbet
> (nxbt), the mother of the king.

The mother of the king was a vulture in a basket? Just kidding, I know what you mean, I think. Mother as vulture could work if we add the cobra to the crown.
>
> "This Pepi knows his mother, this Pepi is not
> ignorant of his mother - the dazzling White Crown,
> Thick One in the midst of Nekheb, Lady of the
> Great House......." P 321 (Sethe Vol 2: 3;
> 910ab)
>

If the said king was Pepi, I like "the dazzling white crown", "thick" or of great substance, the "Lady of the Great House", as his mother much better. Maybe she wore a "dazzling white crown", hence Pepi's mother was divine, which makes him automagically divine, one would think.


> The cult centre of Nekhbet the vulture goddess was
> at Nekheb (nxb) opposite and twin to Nekhen (nxn),
> cult centre of Horus as god of kingship.

Aha, "Horus as the god of kingship". Maybe the "bottle" in the Tanis pyramid is his live throne. I'm not serious.


>
> Beneath this the disk of the sun?


This thought crossed my mind, but I didn't know what to do with the "lever", so I used as as a catapult. Didn't want to call it ramp so as not to conjure up an image of hundreds of slaves hauling stones unable to hold on to their radishes.


>
> In the centre of the pyramid is what appears to be
> a combination of R13, 'Horus falcon on standard
> with feather' and R14, feather on standard - these
> represent the ideogram for 'west' (jmnt).

Definately not a feather. If you look at it for about 3 or 4 seconds, a figure like a cross with arms and a dot where a "head" would be, appears.


>
> Beneath this standard, the four horizontal lines
> may be the upper part of a 'reed column' / 'Djed
> pillar' or perhaps stacks of offerings.

Somehow that doesn't work, I don't see loafs of bread, meat, or fruits etc. Gold bars?
>
>
> The figures at the bottom are holding a cord? -
> 'stretching the cord' ritual?

Does the inscription say some about the ritual? There is a passage in the Papyrus of Ani:

"I have seen the god Abet-ka placing the "cord; the child is tied with fetters, and the rope of the god Ab-ka is drawn tight....Behold me "I am born, I came forth in the form of a living "Khu, and the human beings who are upon the "earth ascribe praise [onto me]." That would work with the "dazzling white crown" of Pepi's mother, but I don't believe it myself.
>
>
> Either side of the top of the pyramid is the
> 'Sound Eye' (wDAt) of Horus. (the individual
> parts of the eye were used as fractions of grain
> measures)

Depends on what anybody interprets as grain.


>
> On each side of the pyramid is a cobra / uraeus
> wearing the white crown of Upper Egypt.

That's what I said.
>
> "Neith is a falcon who has come Horus's eye,
> (which is) the uraeus that came forth as a falcon,
> that came forth as Horus's eye" (Nt 6)

Unless Horus came forth as the Falcon who "flies up" like an eagle-eyes spirit, I can't hold forth with this.
>
>
> The west face of the Dyn 13 pyramidion of Khendjer
> has two cobras / uraei hanging down from the
> winged disc of the sun. A fragment from the west
> face also show R14, 'feather on standard' -
> ideogram for west.
>
> The pyramidion of Amenemhet III, also has cobras /
> uraei hanging down from the disc of the winged
> sun, and beneath them, the two 'Sound Eyes' of
> Horus.
>
> CT

In word, carvings, and paintings, there are more snakes, serpents, and cobras, and even two-legged dragons, their High priests,in the AE civilization than one can count. Other than astronomical, they are all symbols transformation, renewal and wisdom, in all ancient civilization, not cultures, the former being universal.

Brilliant were those Ancients, and we know they possessed the secrets of nature and life, or we wouldn't be obssessed with finding out. We need to know.

Hope ya'll root for the Giants Bravo

Charlotte


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