December 11, 2007 10:26PM
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Anthony Wrote:
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> fmetrol Wrote:
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> > I duuno but I think Kanga might be suggesting
> that
> > Osiris absorbed the attributes of his
> predecessor
> > whoever that might be ... was it Wepwawet
>
>
> The one mentioned was Khentiamentu. One of his
> epithets was "Foremost of the Westerners", and
> Osiris usurped that title. There's nothing there
> that connects that concept to any numerical value,
> though.
Khentiamentu Thankyou Anthony. I believe it was Wepwawet that figured in the earliest Hebseds
> > This doesn't necessarily rule out any
> significant
> > numbers attached to the Osirian myth despite
> him
> > not being attested until the 5th.
>
> It's difficult, to say the least, to attach
> numbers to a myth that hadn't been written yet.
> And because these are myths, not scientific
> advances, they do not have to follow an
> evolutionary rule of logic. The numerical
> attachments could have been done at any time, in
> any manner, at any rate of speed that can be
> imagined.
Ok but as one old poster said Osiris had the Hover effect. He sucked up all before him and that might have included the numerology.
> >
> > But it's all speculative when it comes to
> cubit
> > rods.
>
> Not actually. We have cubit rods, and we have
> measurements in cubits that date back long before
> the pyramids were built. The precise length of
> the units is all that is really debated.
This is where we disagree
We have cubit rods we can study from the 18th dynasty, none from the 4th and certainly none before that. What we have are early cubit signs and as I have recently remarked there is no guarantee that they relate to a "royal" cubit, in fact on the best evidence we have it's probably the "common" cubit and this is not necessarily 6/7th the former. We have tried to apply 28/7/4 logic to the third dynasty and it doesn't work (Saqqara ostracon). We have looked at the only example of the seked (4th dynasty) and there is no 20.62 inch royal cubits in sight. The distances between marking are much shorter. Truth is apart from Khufu's chambers there are no royal cubits of 20.62 to be found, which is more or less proven by Petrie's survey. All those large and small "royals" he calculated by wrongly converting his imperial measures _only_ into royals point to some other measures being used.
Graham Oaten
The great amount of labour involved in quarrying and transporting such a mass of masonry as even the casing, has always been a cause of astonishment - Sir Flinders Petrie.
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