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May 6, 2024, 9:32 am UTC    
October 27, 2007 04:25PM
MJ Thomas Wrote:
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>
> Hmmm, interesting.
> It had never occurred to me that I may be looking
> at something that actually had nothing at all to
> do with AE burial customs, religion, magic,
> science, etc.
> I really must look into these “ancient energy
> plants and alien landing docks” ideas of yours…
>


Don't even try to pin those ideas on me. I have approached this subject with an open mind and I have judged all ideas equally and fairly.

I don't have any original ideas. I just have the ideas that the evidence has shown is the most logical.


>
> You write, ‘The intent of the pyramid was to house
> the body of the king.’
>
> And your contemporary textual evidence for this
> being so with all (or some?) of the pyramids
> pre-Unas is what exactly?
>

It's in the mastabas that surround the pyramids in question.



>
> You write, ‘You are glossing over this enormous
> distinction between intent and execution.
>
> Not at all, Anthony.


Yes, indeed.



> I am addressing this issue and you are, or so it
> appears to me, avoiding it.
>



Again, don't try to pin your behaviour on me.



>
> I wrote, ‘IIRC, Ritva has elsewhere pointed out
> how one mummy was found to be bundles of sticks.’
>
>
> You reply, ‘The body of a king?’
>
> I don’t know, but I think it unlikely to have been
> royalty.

Then why bring it up?



> But it is evidence all the same, but to what
> degree it is relevant to the Egyptians of the 4th
> and early 5th Dyn. remains to be seen.
>

The distance from the Earth to the Moon is also evidence...



>
> I wrote, ‘So why should anybody baulk at the idea
> of the pyramid not being an actual tomb for the
> king in whose name it was built?’
>
> You reply, predictably, ‘Because it's a false
> assertion, based on speculation, rather than fact
> or evidence. Can you think of any better reasons
> to reject it completely?’
>
> Er, do you mean other than the fact that all
> evidence is open to different interpretations and
> contains the potential (usually realised) to
> create different conclusions?


No. I mean the idea you presented doesn't jibe with the evidence or with logic. Of course it should be discarded.



> Just like everybody else, Anthony, you have no
> proof of anything about the intended purpose of
> these 4th and early 5th Dyn. pyramids, only
> hypotheses.


Another false statement.

I have presented a collection of evidence that clearly shows the function of the pyramids in the Fourth Dynasty. Your refusal to examine the evidence or follow the logic does not preclude others from doing so.

Thankfully.



> And once again I would remind you that your sense
> of logic may well be totally different to that of
> the AEs.
>


And once again I ask that you stop raising this red herring. I am using logical proofs for understanding history. We are not talking about ethnocentric assumptions about how they would have interpreted the same evidence.




> Now why don’t you stop waving your ‘logical
> conclusions’ in everybody’s face and provide us
> with hard details of the contemporary textual
> evidence that supports your opinions and to which
> so far only you appear to be privy.

Stop pretending it hasn't happened a hundred times. Your continual denial of events and discussions that happened just a few weeks ago is worrisome, to say the least. If you don't start responding to the evidence presented, I will be forced to ignore all your posts, as there appears to be no point in showing you anything new. You simply deny it ever happened and then make false accusations.

In fact, I think this is the last time I will "engage" you in discussion. I will from now on simply point out your mistakes and ignore your comments. Others can judge the value of your posts for themselves.

Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Subject Author Posted

Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Hans October 26, 2007 03:23PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 26, 2007 05:55PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 26, 2007 07:15PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

fmetrol October 26, 2007 08:59PM

Once again

Anthony October 27, 2007 06:13AM

Re: Not once again

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:23AM

Re: Not once again

Anthony October 27, 2007 02:09PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

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Anthony October 27, 2007 04:58PM

Addendum

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:06PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:37AM

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Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 28, 2007 01:56PM

On gods and kings in Egypt...

Anthony October 29, 2007 09:55AM

Re: On gods and kings in Egypt...

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 11:48AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

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Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 28, 2007 02:51PM

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Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 11:21AM

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MJ Thomas October 29, 2007 01:03PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 02:58PM

Right here, Hans

Anthony October 26, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Right here, Hans

cladking October 26, 2007 07:40PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Hans October 27, 2007 01:49AM

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RLH October 27, 2007 12:18PM

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MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 12:59PM

Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 02:30PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 02:43PM

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Anthony October 27, 2007 03:04PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 03:11PM

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Anthony October 27, 2007 03:32PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 03:36PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:26PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 04:30PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:52PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 04:56PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:11PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 05:26PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:46PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 05:51PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 06:39PM

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MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 06:04PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

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Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 03:53PM

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Pacal October 27, 2007 04:04PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:27PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 06:01PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:43AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Jammer November 02, 2007 10:16AM

Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:07PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

cladking October 27, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:29PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

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Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 08:44PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:39PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:47PM

Psst... you might want to have a look at this

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:48PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Roxana Cooper October 29, 2007 11:46AM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

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