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May 6, 2024, 7:06 am UTC    
October 27, 2007 07:37AM
MJ Thomas Wrote:
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>
> A thread with an opening post that is totally
> biased in favour of the theory, note theory, that
> the pyramids were used as tombs for the king's in
> whose names they were supposedly built... I'd
> rather not, thank you.
>


I state the conclusion and then document why it is the logical conclusion to the argument. I invite you to conclude something different if you'd like... but you have to explain all the evidence we have collected over the last 2000 years, and not just dismiss it as inconvenient, or attempt to bury it with conspiracy theories.



>
> You write, 'Why mislead someone looking for honest
> answers????'
>
> There is nothing misleading in my post, Anthony.


There most certainly is. You were a participant in a discussion on the exact topic about which Hans asked, right here on this site, and yet you told him:

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I seriously doubt that such a site or book exists.
If either does, one thing is certain: it almost certainly won't be by an Egyptologist

It would appear that it is not in Egyptologists interest to even consider the possibility that there oft repeated hypothesis "The pyramids were tombs" may, just may, be wrong.
The pros are for the most part purely circumstantial - the favourite being: it looks like a tomb therefore it was actually used as a tomb - and the cons are invariably ignored.

There's nothing circumstantial about what is presented in the post I made a few weeks ago. I posted solid facts about the context of the pyramids in the Old Kingdom. Not one single milligram of contradictory evidence has been presented. The "cons" don't exist, so of course they are ignored. You seem to have completely forgotten every word of it and so you tell Hans this rubbish about there being no such evidence, the "cons are invariably ignored" and that Egyptologists aren't open minded to the issue.

Your statements are simply and demonstrably false. Period.


> If you believe otherwise, then I ask that you do
> as Hans requests and give details of a website or
> book that deals in an unbiased manner with all of
> the arguements for and against.

I gave him one. If you can't admit that the facts lead to a conclusion that destroys your ethnocentric mathematical hypotheses, then that's your problem. Change your hypothesis. Don't ask us to change the facts.



> If you can provide details of a website or book
> that meets these requirements and is by an
> Egyptologist, then even better...


If being published on the subject in mainstream journals and speaking at real Egyptological conventions and universities does not qualify the author, then what does?



>
> BTW, do you honestly believe that politics does
> not come into this?


What the devil are you talking about? Now you're engaging in conspiracy theories. The last stand of the intellectually bankrupt argument.


> If it doesn't, then Egyptology is unique in the
> world of science in general.


That seals it. Conspiracy theories. The "feared Orthodoxy". The Galileo Argument.


> This is not a slight against anybody; it's an
> observation on normal human behaviour - where
> there's people there's politics.

And where there are true-believers in the disproven, there are conspiracy theories.





>
> Anyway, here endeth my minor and not entirely
> helpful contribution to this thread - well, for
> the time being, anyway...


Entirely unhelpful, except to showcase the dubious tactics of the Alternadoxy. For that, I thank you.

Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Subject Author Posted

Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Hans October 26, 2007 03:23PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 26, 2007 05:55PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 26, 2007 07:15PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

fmetrol October 26, 2007 08:59PM

Once again

Anthony October 27, 2007 06:13AM

Re: Not once again

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:23AM

Re: Not once again

Anthony October 27, 2007 02:09PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 27, 2007 12:13PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 05:48AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:37AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 08:57AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 27, 2007 12:11PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 12:52PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 27, 2007 02:12PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 03:34PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:25PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

cladking October 27, 2007 04:46PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:58PM

Addendum

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:06PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:37AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

cladking October 28, 2007 11:00AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

fmetrol October 28, 2007 11:08AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 01:44PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 28, 2007 01:56PM

On gods and kings in Egypt...

Anthony October 29, 2007 09:55AM

Re: On gods and kings in Egypt...

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 11:48AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 28, 2007 01:48PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

fmetrol October 28, 2007 02:16PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 11:33AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 05:48PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

cladking October 27, 2007 02:54PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:28AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Jammer November 02, 2007 11:36AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Ronald October 28, 2007 03:31AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Anthony October 28, 2007 05:45AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:42AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 28, 2007 12:31PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 28, 2007 01:25PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 28, 2007 02:51PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 11:21AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 29, 2007 01:03PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 02:58PM

Right here, Hans

Anthony October 26, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Right here, Hans

cladking October 26, 2007 07:40PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Hans October 27, 2007 01:49AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

RLH October 27, 2007 12:18PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 12:59PM

Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 02:30PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 02:43PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 03:04PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 03:11PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 03:32PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 03:36PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:26PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 04:30PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:52PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 04:56PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:11PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 05:26PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 05:46PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 27, 2007 05:51PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 06:39PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 06:04PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

cladking October 27, 2007 04:49PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 03:53PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Pacal October 27, 2007 04:04PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

Anthony October 27, 2007 04:27PM

Re: Empty sarcophagi? What else would you expect?

MJ Thomas October 27, 2007 06:01PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Roxana Cooper October 28, 2007 10:43AM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Jammer November 02, 2007 10:16AM

Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:07PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

cladking October 27, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:29PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

cladking October 27, 2007 08:37PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Anthony October 27, 2007 08:44PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:39PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

fmetrol October 27, 2007 07:47PM

Psst... you might want to have a look at this

Anthony October 27, 2007 07:48PM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Roxana Cooper October 29, 2007 11:46AM

Re: Direct textual reference of Pyramid-Tombs

Warwick L Nixon October 29, 2007 12:10PM

Re: Question on the "pyramids as tombs" question

Hans October 31, 2007 09:04AM



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