clem ciamarra Wrote:
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> (Referring and quoting from the Wall_mo website)
>
> now in the first depication - eguptian ret theres
> shows a dark figure
> which is described there\
> = Men: We also have "ret na romé" or "We men above
> mankind." This ideology allows us to understand
> that there are actually only three races
> represented here; Black, White, and Semitic since
> the Egyptians considered themselves in a class of
> their own, while still showing that they belonged
> to the Black racial group.

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This is the very altered image which Bernard pointed out, to wit, quoting me:

There is a tendency by many Afrocentrists to rely upon a 1913 edition
of Lepsius' Erganzungsband, pl. 48 rendering of the Ramses III motif,
which was incorrectly rendered. As Frank Yurco pointed out in an
earlier discussion on this same topic

"...To make matters worse, the hieroglyph texts between these figures
were garbled. The original scenes both in Sety I's tomb and in Ramesses
III's tomb showed the Egyptians and the Kushites as distinctly
different. Also, the hieroglyphs on the real walls are distributed
between each of the four figures depicting each type. You can now view
the real photographs of both the Sety I and Ramesses III walls in
Hornung's volumes on the Valley of the Kings. I have been inside both
tombs myself and have seen these scenes and their texts, and on the
basis of this, the depiction in the Erganzungsband is not a real
depiction of what is on the walls but rather a pastische, arranged from
Lepsius' notes and garbled in the process. It is unfortunate that so
many people have depended on this depiction as reality, when a look at
the walls in both tombs shows that patently it is not reality."

Usually the 5th Hour of the Book of Gates usually shows 4 examples of each 'race of men', and in this case, each term for these 'races' in glyphs are spread amongst the figures, as I recall.

For example, here are the real images from the tomb of Ramses III (KV 11), two each, showing the 3 foreign races as they are actually labelled:



Note the distinct difference? The image marked as "Egyptian" in the Wally-Mo website is actually labelled as "Nubian," the "Semite" is actually labelled as "Libyan," and the "European" is labelled in the tomb as an "Asiatic."

All the more reason to NOT trust any Afrocentric websites you find on the 'Net.

HTH.

Katherine Griffis-Greenberg

Doctoral Candidate
Oriental Institute
Doctoral Programme in Oriental Studies [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom