> I WAS however asking for a business model that would show how ecconomoies will fail if
> things continue the way they are from a socio-ecconomic perspective.

Do you understand what you just asked? You are asking for a "business model" that shows failure!

Every business model that I have seen will attempt to show success, however many will fail. That is how it goes. Why, because they make wrong assumptions, are not executed properly, are badly managed, don't have enough resources, cannot reach certain critical milestones, under estimate the markets, etc, etc...

When I say that things will fail if they continue the way that they are is because the debt is growing on an exponential basis and this type of debt cannot be sustained. At this exponential rate, eventually all new money will be tied-up paying interest on old money and nothing new can be done. This is actually simple math...

> I was also asking for some evidence that the successful business models (ie tired and
> tested in the past many times) which Branson, or in fact the aircraft industry was built
> around, would not be successful here. You've got to show 'evidence' not speculation.

The point is that it is YOU who doesn't have any evidence! You just simply cannot extrapolate any particular business model (successful or not!) in the aircraft industry towards the commercialization of space. This is like trying to compare Apples with Oranges and for some reason you just cannot see this!!!

You are the one who is "speculating" when you suggest here that you can use an aircraft industry business model and apply it directly to the commercialization of space! Well, I will continue to tell you that this argument is ridiculous at best!!!

> Also you have got to learn about personal attacks. I have said your arguements are rubbish.
> You have made references that I am a troll ("Are you for real?"... I'm taking that as
> meaning you think I am just posting purposefully inflamatory material without actually
> meaning it),

I am sorry, but I have never called you a troll! You are calling yourself that...but it i your arguments that are rubbish...

> that I must take drugs ("Maybe you are smoking something!?"... I'll take a drugs test if
> you do. I will be clean... I rarely even drink and don't even take parracetamol) et al.
> I have never insulted or attacked YOU directly as you have me.

Well, I clearly didn't mean that you were on drugs! What I meant is that you continuing to try to state in this strong fashion that you feel that you can extrapolate business models for Earth transportation (aircraft industry) towards space exploration sounds extremely ridiculous to me, to say the least!

> Right I now go back to awaiting your evidence.

I already clearly told you the "evidence" that there are no point B's in space that can be commercialized! Then you answer that you can bring "stuff" with you to create those commercial point B's and I still think that this is ridiculous! Are you going to "mine" for oil, gold or coal on the moon or Mars!? LOL

You talk about science fiction stuff like it is real in terms of human beings being able to do space commercialization in the 21st century when human beings can't even seem to be able to sclae, sustain and stabilize their own social-economic systems here on Earth...

In summary, all the evidence is on my side of the argument and none of it in yours...

-+wirelessguru1