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May 5, 2024, 2:32 pm UTC    
April 22, 2005 01:15AM
donald raab Wrote:
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> You know it does amaze me.
>
> The wheremacht and luftwaffe all ran and fought on
> SYNTHETIC oil. That was 60 years ago. This board
> talks alot abot lost civilizations and
> technology. That is the ultimate lost
> technology.
>
> Maybe deliberately so.
Do you ever google anything before spouting off??????

The Germans were using the Bergius process which converted coal to diesel fuel. here is a paragraph from google:

"The Bergius Process is a very simple process for converting brown coal completely into crude oil invented by Dr. Friedrich Bergius. The brown coal, also known as lignite, is ground into a fine powder and placed into a high pressure reactor where it is reacted with hydrogen gas at high temperature and pressure. Initially, problems with large scale production made industrial use impossible. After the development of catalysts, and with assistance from the Standard Oil (NJ) Company the process became commercially viable. Dr. Bergius received the Nobel Prize in 1931 for this contribution to industrial science. Check out the Nobel Prize site to learn more!"

It has never been lost. It was published in 1913 and improved by Standard Oil. We still know all about it. If you had googled you would have found thispost from a former head of the synthetic fuels dept at the US that said 1) the process would only be economically feasible at $100 a barrel and 2)
"> By the way, peak German synthetic production in 1943 from 14 lants was about 70,000 barrels per day (US Strategic Bombing Survey). Total US oil consumption nowadays is 20 MILLION bpd (!) largely for transportation fuels."

Bernard
>









>
> Also. 1970's. Oil embargo. New SMALL cars
> introduced. less than ten years and the demand
> was concurrently reduced to the point that the oil
> producers were crying poverty.
>
> Time to buy a Prius and dump the SUV's. They both
> get you from A to B. And at 20k a lot cheaper
> than even a base SUV. The new lithium battery
> Cherry cars are not far behind from China. And
> they use NO oil. And 5K might be a HIGH price for
> them. Every technology has its day in the sun and
> oil has used up its time. NASCAR might not be as
> much fun but then again it could be turned into a
> living museum of what was for those that can't
> kill the addiction to the oil stuff.
>
> Oil is about politics and NOT economics.


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