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Roxana
November 28, 2005 12:56PM
JimLewandowski Wrote:

> ***
> WRONG. It was maybe acceptable for the mores of
> large groups or organizations, but not for the
> individual. Did people who MIGHT have been
> non-believers (witches, heretics) think killing
> people for their beliefs was wrong? Of course
> they thought it was wrong.

Surely you jest. My dear Jim, what once groups called 'heretic'
another called orthodox. Lutherans happily burned Catholics as
heretics. And everybody burned Anabaptists.

There were a few people who thought killing over faith was
wrong but they were few and far between and had no influence -
unfortunately. As a rule 'heretics' became enthusiastic persecutors
the minute they had the power to do so. See the Wars of Religion.


> ***
> Keyword: groups.
>
> Is it fair to say that groups that did NOT act
> like the CC did so because they didn't believe the
> actions of the CC were moral?

All religious groups of the time *did* act exactly as
the Catholic Church did. Only the beliefs of the victims
varied. Look at the persecution record of the Protestant
German states. They sure didn't believe burning people
for their faith was wrong. Neither btw did Luther himself.


> > Now personally I don't believe in blaming
> > present day people
> > and organizations for the misdeeds of their
> > forbearers.
>
> ***
> Neither do I.

Excuse me? I thought your whole argument was that the
Catholic Church was likely to be guilty of Brown's charges
because of its past persecutions?


> ***
> It's not necessary. If not ONE person takes
> ACTION based on their beliefs that much in DVC is
> truthful, it's MOOT. Do you really think DVC will
> have any affect anywhere in society that involves
> ACTION.
>
So, your saying we shouldn't challenge Brown's false and
misleading statements? But then you are apparently inclined
to believe his charges aren't you.

Subject Author Posted

Defamation in Fiction

Pacal November 26, 2005 09:51PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Jason Colavito November 27, 2005 08:18AM

any info. regarding defamation of groups?

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 09:55AM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

Warwick L Nixon November 27, 2005 12:23PM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 12:29PM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

Warwick L Nixon November 27, 2005 03:11PM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 03:42PM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 10:39AM

Re: any info. regarding defamation of groups?

Joanne November 27, 2005 02:51PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Richard Fusniak November 27, 2005 01:09PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

John Wall November 27, 2005 01:10PM

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Stephen Tonkin November 27, 2005 01:56PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Roxana Cooper November 27, 2005 01:48PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 02:07PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 27, 2005 03:15PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Joanne November 27, 2005 03:58PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 10:44AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Roxana Cooper November 27, 2005 04:44PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 05:19PM

Request

lobo-hotei November 27, 2005 07:06PM

Re: Request

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 10:45AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Pacal November 27, 2005 07:21PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 08:57PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Pacal November 28, 2005 11:09AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 11:43AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 11:51AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 12:02PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 12:09PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 12:13PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 12:16PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Roxana Cooper November 28, 2005 11:05AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 11:25AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 11:37AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 11:40AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 11:47AM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Lee November 28, 2005 12:57PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 01:04PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 01:08PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Roxana November 28, 2005 12:56PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Roxana November 28, 2005 12:59PM

Re: Defamation in Fiction

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 01:05PM

Roxana, re: your Q on sources for Vatican secret archives

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 01:15PM

Moderators PLEASE!!!

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 01:22PM



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