November 27, 2004 10:42AM
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"It is the effort to make lanse meadows and asterix by the mainstream that bothers me. They only gave up the ghost grudgingly and like the article they still have that desire to have it go away."
Nonsense! L'Anse is fully accepted as a Norse site! As for the rest; we've discussed the need for solid proof any number of times before. Until L'Anse we didn't have anything but the sagas - which were less than conclusive. Hence skepticism.
"Almost all interpetations of the site state it was a boat repair facility."
L'Anse if very small. Too small to be a serious attempt at colonization as described in the the sagas.
"Logically one does not travel grom Greenland or Iceland to the new world to get your boat repaired. You get maintenace to push further on."
Presumably to wherever 'Vinland' was.
"Also the viking/norse drive to explore seemed to be unlimited. They were not "we got here Whew" and pack up and leave. They met the muslims and they went all the way to the Black Sea in what was called Rus."
The Viking drive to explore seems to have been directly related to trade opportunities - of which there were pleny in eastern Europe. Native Americans had things to trade but don't seem to have been inclined to accept the Vikings as partners. The sagas describe them as extremely unfriendly to the settlers - probably for good reason.
The Vikings explored Russia et-al by going up big navigable rivers. None of the eastern seaboard rivers would have taken them any farther west than the Appalachians - if that far. The Mississippi is a very big river but its mouth is awfully far south for Viking penetration.
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