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"Equally if you have ever attended an Egyptology conference you would know getting Egyptologists to agree on anything that has a low percentage of evidence is an unachievable goal. Getting us all to keep an out of date conspiracy running for the sake of a bunch of long dead antiquarians is actually quite a fascinating idea."
This is a very common tactic among those who support any s
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
> No it very simple you try to pretend its super
> complex because you are trying to hide you are
> making stuff up that makes no sense.
No. If it were complex then I couldn't understand it.
It is simply a matter of solving terms in context while reverse engineering the pyrami
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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The words "belief" and "thought" simply don't appear in the PT nor do any other abstractions.
> However, lets fix your 'opinion' first - so give
> us your definition of what an abstraction is?
This is a highly complex and abstract question due to the very nature of moder
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> ...
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> > when they said the king was
> > the pyramid and his tomb was in the sky that's
> > exactly what they meant and it was exactly
> true.
>
> ...
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> In a metaphorical s
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> 616a. Nephthys has assembled for thee all thy
> limbs,
> 616b. in her name of “Deleted, lady of builders.”
> 616c. She has made them well for thee.
> 616d. Thou art given over to thy mother Nut, in
> her name of “Grave”;
> 616e. she has embraced thee, in her name of
> “Grave”;
> 616f
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> Yes you made that up because that is your
> assumption and belief and demonstrates a
> remarkable lack of knowledge about religions
So without any evidence you are claiming they never said; "616d. Thou art given over to thy mother Nut, in her name of "Grave";. 616e. she has embraced thee, in he
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> Your great assumption is that you could 'translate
> in context' ancient Egyptian translated from that
> language into English and not be bothered learning
> the original language. This laughable bad
> assumption.
No. I merely assumed they made perfect sense in terms of their premises ju
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Principia Wrote:
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> Your mind-boggling oration of "Egyptology is
> wholly wrong about absolutely everything" is
> the galactic apex of irony when you employ
> derivations of texts from the field of Egyptology.
It might also be pointed out that both Sethe and his teacher Erman were much more linguists than what
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Principia Wrote:
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> QuotePetry: "365b. he ascends on the smoke
> (incense) of the great censing
>
> They take N. to heaven, to heaven-on the smoke of
> incense."
>
> And from whence does the dead pharaoh ascend on
> the smoke; from whence are they taken to heaven?
The PT is very explicit about th
by
cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> > There's a "Nefermaat", "He who Makes his Gods
> in
> > Words that Can Not be Erased".
> I would also note that he obviously
> believed in Gods - which falsifies again your
> false claim they had no religion
Do you believe that they believed gods were composed of
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
" The director of 6 Idjeru casts for Heliopolis in a transport boat to bring us food from Heliopolis while the elite is in Tura"
Yes. This could well be a sentence. The 16th definition of "cast" in the unabridged dictionary is "to set or change course". This could be a poor translation from the French or a poor translation from the Egyptian. It can be parsed
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> > I believe this is a title rather than a
> complete
> > sentence. This is consistent w
by
cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> So why are you disputing the point?
I have no doubt that "akh" means tomb to later Egyptians. I believe it meant "horizon" to the great pyramid builders which is a place up out of the Nile Valley from which the horizon can be seen and it is the place in which the king was rebuilt as the pyrami
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> A random example taken from one papyrus fragment:
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> Quote.. Papyrus B II; Tallet 2017: 54).
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>
> Exactly how is that not a sentence?
I believe this is a title rather than a complete sentence. This is consistent with much of the writing and nearly all of the writing in tombs.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Corvidius Wrote:
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> An observation on censing and ascending.
>
> The purpose of censing is not to create smoke per
> se, but a fragrance, and in fact the PT do talk
> about scent.
It simply doesn't matter what the purpose of censing was since they told us what happened when the incense burned;
376a. To say: Th
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> Ah but Cladking will simply dismiss this because
> he has already stated that Merer wasn't writing in
> ancient language therefore it is not admissible...
No. You are misquoting me again. What I said was it appears Merer probably didn't command AL but this is impossible to know because none of the
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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>
> QuoteWhen a dead person’s journey to the
> afterlife
> had successfully finished and he/she was
> justified, transfigured into an akh, and
> resurrected, the person became a mighty and
> mysterious entity, which participated in the
> divine sphere of existence and yet still had
> so
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> Already provided
Easy to say but you can't link to what was provided nor to where it was provided. If the builders had ever once said it was a tomb there would be no dispute. The dispute is caused by the lack of evidence they were tombs and that many people don't agree with the assumptions that led to the
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> > Hans Wrote:
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> > > They called them tombs.
> >
> > All that needs to be done is prove this one
> simple
> > statement
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> They called them tombs.
All that needs to be done is prove this one simple statement applied to G1 (or any great pyramid) and I will concede they were tombs. It would make a very convincing argument that great pyramids were tombs. But instead we are left with no direct evidence any great pyramid was intended or used as
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Simple logic is sufficient to show you are wrong.
If the pyramid builders had ever once said any great pyramid was intended or used as a tomb Egyptology would cite that as proof they were tombs.
The fact is the builders said the pyramid was the king and his tomb was in heaven to which he ascended on a cloud of incense. They never once said the great pyramids were tombs or any king was bur
by
cladking
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Ancient Egypt
There's no evidence of the pyramid being used as a determinative for "tomb" until after the great pyramid building age.
The piles of rubble being called "pyramids" is confounding the issue.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Same ol', same ol'.
There is no room made for a distinction between the great pyramids built first and the tiny little piles of rubble that came later.
"As is relatively clear, the names illustrate the function of these funerary complexes which was to guarantee the rebirth of the dead king – allowing his ka and ba soul to unite so that he is reborn as a god, like the sun go
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Perhaps I should start a new thread but I'm also interested if anyone ever determined the type or species of insect found in the lowest relieving chamber.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote:
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> > > How popular were these snails for eating and
> I
> > > wonder which type they were?
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
The above returned no hits on google.
Does anyone know what species of snails were found that was so prolific on the west side of G2?
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
keeperzz Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
> > Very interesting. I am not familiar with this
> and
> > google can't find anything. Are these shafts
> > sloped?
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> Here it is
>
Thank you very much.
It's interesting that these were drilled.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
robin cook Wrote:
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> If people are 'too afraid to ask questions' it may
> be because they are wary of triggering yet another
> orgy of vapid speculation. It's as if the
> discussions on the shafts, going back over one and
> a half years, never happened. The same questions
> and opinions continue to circ
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
keeperzz Wrote:
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> The shortest route from any point inside the
> pyramid to the surface will be perpendicular to
> the pyramid face. This is not the case for the KC
> shafts.
This is true. If it were perpendicular it would be several inches shorter yet.
> And what follows from this? Explain your point.
> Th
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
keeperzz Wrote:
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> What do you think caused the "lower pressure at
> the outlet
> and/ or higher pressure at the inlet"?
Under normal (typical) conditions that prevail from the onset of pyramid building season around June 20 the wind will create a high pressure on the west side and a corresponding low pressure on t
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
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