Pistol Wrote:
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> I think your missing an important context
> cladking, as you inferred earlier, most of Unas'
> PT's are significantly older ritual incantations
> that were etched inside his pyramid tomb walls...
> you have to consider the earliest context of the
> king as Horus * Dynasty 0 and Dynasty 1. Ho
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Do you really believe your tactics, ad hominins, and word games work.
I specifically said that is irrelevant what order the PT were found because they were ALL ANCIENT when they were first inscribed in the tiny little pyramids. I also specifically said that the statements calling the king a pyramid and a star were all through the PT and I specifically said the entire PT is consistent when
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
> >
> > Yet the builders repeatedly said the king is
> both
> > a pyramid and a star ("he, he is the pyramid")
> > ("he is a star"). There is apparently some
> sort
> > of correspondence of stars to pyramids or
> pyramids
> > to
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
2061b. N. rests at home, on the under (side) of the body of the sky, like a nfr.t-star,
251b. thou art the only star, the companion of Hw; thou lookest down on Osiris,
262b. N. was, conceived by Sekhmet, it is Ssmt.t who gave birth to N.,
263a. (as) the star with piercing front (glance) and wide of stride, who brings provisions for (his) journey to Re every day.
1760a. Set this N. among
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> Could you just answer this question, Cladking:
>
> That second phrase: "he is the pyramid". What
> citation do you have for that?
My favorite is this;
414a. N. is as that which dawns, which dawns, which endures, which endures.
414b. The doers of evil shall not be able to destroy
414c.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> Thanks for this, Byrd.
>
> I just looked for the phrase "he is a star", which
> doesn't exist in that precise form (at least, in
> Allen's translation).
They actually more directly, more literally say the king is a star than they directly say he is the pyramid. Indirectly they s
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
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>
> ...
>
> > Yet the builders repeatedly said the king is
> both
> > a pyramid and a star ("he, he is the pyramid")
> > ("he is a star"). There is apparently some
> sort
> &
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Ahatmose Wrote:
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> I would like to state, once again that the OCT is
> a crock of ... well you know.
>
> The pyramids of Giza DO NOT LINE UP TO THE BELT
> STARS and all other theories that the pyramids
> throughout the rest of Egypt mimic the stars is
> ... well just plain wrong.
>
> I can't believe
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
It's a shame they thought there was a conspiracy.
Here's the latest update;
Until modern science and knowledge is systematically applied to Egyptological theory it is simply untested. There have been huge advancements in physics, engineering, chemistry, and materials science since the day of Flinders Petrie. We no longer need to make assumptions about the pyramids and the
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
There's a very simple reason and I predicted this back in the 1970's.
Science is wrong. They are wrong about a great many things because the definitions and axioms are wrong, Of course this isn't the sole reason that progress has slowed dramatically in cosmology. Here the problem is shown by the failure to find the unified field theory and it largely caused by the inability o
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cladking
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Laboratory
Ahatmose Wrote:
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> I am afraid you are missing what he really is. He
> just regurgitates stuff he has heard, For his
> books he didn't even do his own research, Had
> others do it for him. That's not how one gains
> insight into anything. When I met him in 2001 he
> basically blackballed and verbally attacke
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> It an observation that in the past he spouted and
> repeated previous claims by racists which is why
> he switch from his lost civilization being white
> folks to Native Americans in his latest attempt to
> gain money from the gullible.
So not only is he not allowed to agree with anything but doct
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> Stating the truth is not a personal attack. You
> might want to look up the word :
> ultracrepidarian
Stating someone is a racist ands is supplying fodder for nazis is a personal attack and it is unbecoming for science.
> So opinions huh, yeah we know that, I read his
> earlier books - he jus
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> No they answered based on the evidence and
> theories based on that evidence.
If this were true there would be no need for personal attacks.
> Tell us what facts GH is using to reject the
> current theories? You do know right what he said
> about evidence?
He keeps mentioning the existence
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Byrd Wrote:
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> That's not quite correct. They've been studied
> and answered. He didn't like the answers and
> didn't want to read all the material.
Yes! Exactly.
Archaeologists can only study and answer questions and alternative theories in terms of the existing paradigm.
When a new hypothe
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Pistol Wrote:
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> I have read most of the posts on this thread,
> Hancock is not interested in anything other than
> money... full stop. As a few went on to comment
> here... what has he discovered or uncovered?
> nothing except financial reward for doubting facts
> and creating hysteria over ridiculous arguments
>
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Well... ...my favorite is that he calls us "the species with amnesia", but I've stolen a few things from him.
I believe he also coined the term 'narrative" to describe doctrine.
I am hardly an expert on anyone else's work. Anything that's been done before holds little interest for me but I get ideas from just about anyone at all, even the "maids
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> Google search (6 Jan 23) by (baffled) moderator
> for ""linear funicular":
>
>
>
> 331 results ...
>
> 3 forum threads:
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We need
> > cogent argument and facts but we get hysterics.
>
> Well, as yo
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote:
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> I've never read such rubbish ...
I have a thread on one site that got dozens of views per day. Then it suddenly started dropping off. Each drop it would plateau at a new lower level. So I searched for the thread and its components on google. It kept getting harder and harder to find until it wouldn't c
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
The video reminds me of the old joke; how do you known when a politician is telling the truth? He's talking about his opponent?
So how do you know when Graham Hancock might be exactly correct? He's talking about archaeology.
All funding for research goes to further what Hancock calls "the narrative" and all results are expressed in terms of what is already "known
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Ahatmose Wrote:
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> However Clive's discovery and belief that The Giza
> Plateau and the pyramids were "The World's Oldest
> Book of Astronomy" which myself and Nick L. have
> championed will live on and will one day be proven
> to be correct. Of this I have absolutely no doubt.
I always liked his
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cladking
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Alternative Geometry and Numerology
More on topic I was impressed by their contention that water was moved up to 90 meters on the pyramid and that it was surrounded by water. I believe they had water as high as 110 meters per the gravimetric scan but the study claims water flowed on the faces of the pyramids and I've seen no evidence for this nor did they present any.
They make numerous statements that are neither substant
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
I see several glaring problems as well and have some doubt about the science though had only a few minutes to look.
If I understand it there might be some useful data.
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Byrd Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
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> > .and did(st) spew out as Shu,
> > Shu, lift N. up on high;
> > Shu will draw him up
> > those who have lifted themselves up like Shu
> are
> > come
> > Waters, which were brought by Shu and
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> The original test:
>
>
>
No. That is not it.
Neither is this;
.and did(st) spew out as Shu,
Shu, lift N. up on high;
Shu will draw him up
those who have lifted themselves up like Shu are come
Waters, which were brought by Shu and lifted up by the two sources,
Shu, lift N. up to heaven
Sh
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> So you keep claiming - but you offer no evidence
> for this.
It's all evidence. You choose to call it opinion.
The best evidence is that the Pyramid Texts makes perfect sense when taken literally and was instrumental in reverse engineering the pyramid. It also allows me to make accurate prediction
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
cladking Wrote:
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> The belief the
> PT is understood is wholly dependent on the
> assumption that the people, their culture, the
> language and their religion remained unchanged for
> 3000 years.
The ONLY evidence they even had a religion at all is that we translate the Pt as being magical and religious. Take away th
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> cladking Wrote:
> Champollion correctly translated
> > later writing but the technique he used failed
> for
> > the early writing and it was never noticed.
>
>
> A claim with no support - please provide a full
> paper on explaining how you determined this and
> the evidence
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt
Hans_lune Wrote:
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> Okay but you initially said if we changed one it
> would work - it didn't
You misunderstood or I misspoke,. I do remember saying that we could take one word (shu) and see that it always has the same "meaning" in a sentence. The problem was even though it was always associated with "upwa
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cladking
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Ancient Egypt