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The journal, Archaeological Prospection, which published the
now retracted Gunung Padang paper, just published a paper
about "pseudoarchaeological colonialism". It is:
Wadsworth, W.T., Halmhofer, S. and Supernant, K., 2023.
Saying what we mean, meaning what we say: Managing
miscommunication in archaeological prospection.
Archaeological Prospection. open access paper
Abstra
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Hermione Wrote:
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> << ... t the study was flawed
> because its soil samples “were not associated with
> any artifacts or features that could be reliably
> interpreted as anthropogenic or ‘man-made.’”
Which is exactly the point made following the comparable - and equally flawed - dating of material from the Bosnian
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Hermione
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<< The retraction, based on a monthslong investigation, said that the study was flawed because its soil samples “were not associated with any artifacts or features that could be reliably interpreted as anthropogenic or ‘man-made.’”
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One prominent supporter of Mr. Natawidjaja’s research, the journalist Graham Hancock, said in a statement he did not see the retraction as “fair, just
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Open access:
RETRACTED: Geo-archaeological prospecting of Gunung
Padang buried prehistoric pyramid in West Java, Indonesia
Earlier articles about Gunung Padang:
There is no new evidence that Gunung Padang is a 24000
year old pyramid, ArcheoThoughts, Nov. 2023
A Challenge for the Gunung Padang Theory
Laila Afifa, TEMP.CO, February 1, 2024
Yours,
Paul H.
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Paul H.
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On Gunung Padang, the New York Times Turns to ... Graham Hancock?
1/3/2024 by Jason Colativo
The New Times article being written about is:
‘World’s Oldest Pyramid’ in Indonesia? A Study Draws Skepticism
By Mike Ives and Rin HindryatiPhotographs by Ulet Ifansasti
Reporting from Seoul and from Cianjur, Indonesia
By Mike Ives and Rin HindryatiPhotographs by Ulet Ifansasti
Reporting fro
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(Translation of abstract):
The Mount Padang archaeological site presents a puzzle: is it a naturally formed terraced platform on a rock or a completely man-made pyramid? To solve this, we conducted geological research in the Gunung Padang area, known for its volcanic rocks. Our approach involved understanding ancient volcanic geology and local volcanism. The area, situated at 800-1200m alt
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Hermione
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A decade-old article that the Art News quotes is:
Digging for the truth at controversial megalithic site
Proving the authenticity of these ruins has taken on
the aura of a nationalistic quest.
Michael Bachelard and Karuni Rompies,
Sydney Morning Herald, 2013
It is well worth taking another look at.
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Paul H,
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Ahatmose Wrote:
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> Dibble again:
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> "Hello! I am an archaeologist whose research
> focuses on foodways in ancient Greece. My research
> touches on topics of urbanism, climate change,
> religious ritual, and everyday life.
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That's just Dibble's intro page: .
This is a list of his publicat
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Hermione
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Related thread (and other links in that thread to other related threads) -
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Dibble again:
"Hello! I am an archaeologist whose research focuses on foodways in ancient Greece. My research touches on topics of urbanism, climate change, religious ritual, and everyday life. My current project, ZOOCRETE: The Zooarchaeology of Historical Crete: A Multiscalar Approach to Animals in Ancient Greece, combines archaeological, textual, and biomolecular evidence for the human
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Archaeologists Call Foul on the Purported
Discovery of a 27,000-Year-Old Pyramid
Does Indonesia's Gunung Padang site house an "prehistoric pyramid"?
Nope, say experts. Artnet News, December 7, 2023
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Paul H.
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Still not impressed ...
And now there are further problems:
<< Publisher's Ethics Team Launches Investigation into Flawed Gunung Padang Article >>
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Hermione
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A 27,000-year-old pyramid? Controversy hits an extraordinary archaeological claim
Dyani Lewis, Nature, November 28, 2023
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Paul H.
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Paul H.
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The paper is based on a poster session at a 2018 conference and analysed by Carl Feagan here.
A current analysis is here.
by André Costopoulos, an archeologist at McGill University.
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DougWeller
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He's unimpressed ...
Quote Meanwhile, Danny Hilman Natawidjaja, the Indonesian government-affiliated geologist who claims Gunung Padang in Indonesia is a prehistoric pyramid complex that coincidentally makes Indonesia the oldest civilization on Earth, published a new paper repeating the claim, to the delight of Graham Hancock, who claims it is “vindication” of his speculations. However, N
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It seems that, on Wiki, there are some who dispute the claims in Hilman's paper:
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Someone has kindly sent me this informative paper:
QuoteThis article analyzes the archaeological site of Gunung Padang in Java island (Indonesia) as an example of megalithic heritage of monumental size. It is set in the regional typology of earth and stone terraces with a stepped-pyramid appearance (punden berundak) from the Indo-Malayan Bronze-Iron Age (c. 500 BC–500/1000 AD). It is also
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Geo-archaeological prospecting of Gunung Padang buried prehistoric pyramid in West Java, Indonesia
Hilman et al.
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Hermione
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In Episode One of his Ancient Apocalypse series, Graham
Hancock states about the Nan Madol archaeological
site, which lies on the eastern shore of the island of
Pohnpe in the Federated States of Micronesia in the
western Pacific Ocean;
"During my explorations on previous visits, I found
several of its megalithic pillars extending out below
the waterline, suggesting that earlie
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Paul H.
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I went through the previous thread on "Graham Hancock
has declared war on archaeologists" with over 50 comments
and compiled URLs from these comments in one place
such that they are readily available to people.
These comments are at .
Dr. Flint Dibble
With Netflix’s Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock
has declared war on archaeologists, Flint Dibble, The Conversation
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Below are videos that review various aspects of Ancient Apocalypse.
Archaeologist examines Graham Hancocks Ancient Apocalypse. With Jeb Card and Brian Dunning
Episode 30 • 31st January 2023
Ancient Apocalypse - In the ruins of knowledge (ft. Dr. Bill Farley and History with Kayleigh)
Episode 31 • 14th February 2023 • Gunung Padang, Cholula and Malta • Fredrik Trusohamn
Arc
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QuoteThe research findings of archaeology in the last decade in Indonesia are potential to bring
in scientific revolution. One of the findings is Gunung Padang Site which has been studied since
1914, yet the researches from 2012 to the present have resulted in extremely different conclusion.
Research at Gunung Padan has revealed two cultural layers (495); their dating is shown on p. 496.
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Kat Reece found this series of videos by Miniminuteman, a young archaeologist who has a very successful channel on youtube. He debunks a lot of the general garbage on various social media. NB: He does not shrink from using contemporary language that some might find colourful.
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
00:00 Thesis
02:12 Who Is Graham Hancock?
03:57 Who Is Me?
06:10 How Do You Prove A Lost Civiliza
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Hermione
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Episode 1, Gunung Padang, shows a close up of a cross-section made from drill cores with the lithology symbolized for borings. The layers, which the "11,600 BP" and "24,000" BP "datable material" came from are pure basalt, likely columnar basalt, as suggested by the lithology symbology. I strong suspect that the "datable material," whatever it might be, ca
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For the "Ancient Apocalypse" in "The New Republic," try this link:
I have been looking at Episode 1, Gunung Padang, and Episode 4, Bimini Road. Both are rather long on rhetoric and short on evidence. (Which is no surprise.) In the Gunung Padang episode, the images of excavation pit / trenches at excavation, (9:15-9:20) which I presume are of the alleged "cultural l
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