cladking Wrote:
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> Warwick L Nixon Wrote:
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>
> > " Unfortunately, if you relegate these folks
> to
> > their own board, you'll actually be
> legitimising
> > the field of "study" (as Warwick pointed out
> > above). I'm afraid that just letting them
> post
> > continuously, without really adhering to the
> > central purpose of the board("Weighing the
> > EVIDENCE for Alternative history"), the board
> is
> > becoming a soapbox for them, and they are
> > "borrowing" the credibility that Ma'at has
> > achieved over the years to claim it as
> "earned",
> > and thus they receive tacit approval for
> their
> > Brilliant Speculations"
>
>
> And the ironic part is that evidence means nothing
> since there isn't any.



Isnt any evidence for what??


The little that exists
> doesn't support your conmtentions




what contentions are those?


>so you continue
> to pretend there is vast amounts of evidence that
> is there for anyone to saee if they just want to
> see it.

evidence of what?


>
> But when simple facts are pointed out like there's
> not ONE SINGLE RAMP BUILDER in Egyptian history

So every ramp that was ever used in 3000 years of history built itself?




"> but there are even necklace stringers "

so the existence of necklace stringers is proof that they never used ramps for anything but if they did those ramps built themselves?

I've gotta dig out my book on Middle Egyptian Faience necklaces..there must be something I missed


"this causes
> no cognitive disonance because you already have
> accepted ramps based on centuries of assumption.
> There's no caiuse for concern that you can even
> look at the pyramid ""



OHHHH I get it....you're talking about 'pyramids' and ramps



>and tell there were no ramps


just looking ( as in looking at pictures I assume )at the pyramid it's impossible to say whether they used Ramps or not



> because you can argue with the person who tells
> you to look and call him a fool for having eyes.


when did I call you a fool?

and when did you demonstrate how the spiraling lines on G1 stand as Proof that they DID not use Ramps?

>
> Here you have no proof no evidence but you can
> state categotrically that a mathematical or
> transgenerational plan for Giza is impossible
> because you have no evidence. "



that's a pretty abrupt topic change

When did I ever say that a transgenerational plan was NOT possible?



<Meanwhile you
> simply disregard the tiny amount of actual
> evidence left by the builders that there is oir
> should be such advance planning. "


what aspect of advance planning are you referring to?

surely not the trial passages...I'm one of those who believe they are advance planning for G1. When have you ever mentioned the trial passages?




>It's OK for
> egyptology tio take no information anbd assenmble
> it into a best guess but woe to anyone who tries
> to use evidence to show they're wrong.


1) you really should try to stop jumping all over the place

2) I'm not Egyptology

3) where do you get the outrageous notion that the entire dicipline of Egyptology is based on absolutely no facts???

4) what evidence have you presented that negates any aspect of the Egyptological concensus,,if you can nail one down that is?


>
>" I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion. "

everyone IS entitled to their own opinion ...noone is entitled to their own facts



>If
> you can't find evidence to deny my opinion it
> could be because I'm right.

actually the one thing that I do KNOW FOR SURE is that it's impossible to proove a negative.


> consider this possibility. Maybe it will lessen
> the shock later. You really need to consider the
> possibility that the Egyptians cared about the
> future enough to plan past the tips of their noses
> (unlike modern people).

I have not only considered it...it is the reason I concentrate my studies on the Old Kingdom. I believe that we can learn how to do the same thing, by appreciating WHY they did so not how. I wrote a one page paper on that very topic just after I started posting here. I'll dig it out if you're interested.






>Why is it so hard to
> imagine people cared about things that are truly
> important.

If I meet someone who suffers from that misconception I'll ask em and get back to you with the responce


>Why do you cast these people as just
> like people now but too primitive to think.


YOU are asking me why I do something that I have never done

have you been discussing the OK with some other person somewhere whose been posting under my name??


>
> The simple fact is that you utterly misunderstand
> them.

there is nothing I can say in responce to that that wouldn't result in my posting priviledges being revoked



Warwick