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April 26, 2024, 4:23 pm UTC    
August 15, 2021 04:11PM
keeperzz Wrote:
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> Yes and no.
> Really all still air inside the chamber would have
> almost the same temperature, but any work in the
> chamber requires lighting, and in the presence of
> a torch, warm air would accumulate at the ceiling
> of the chamber and with the correct location of
> the inlets and the shape of the shafts, air
> movement would take place.

I presume the main entrance is always going to be open when there is work going on inside and I believe the work going on was being done in the grand gallery. Air would normally be drawn in the air shafts or through the opening in the incomplete grand gallery and be drawn out the front. During east winds and temperature inversions air would flow the other direction.

> But we observe such a
> shape of the shafts and the position of their
> inlets that after a while of working with the
> torch in the chamber there would be nothing to
> breathe.

Torches in the grand gallery would normally help air flow up and out the eastern shaft.

You're right of course that the shafts would be of little or no benefit to workers in the chambers burning torches except on windy days.

> What multiple purposes do you think the shafts
> served?

They may have used them to lift weights that operated a brake on a possible lifting mechanism. There are other possibilities that require a sloped shaft.

> Do you think the construction work in the
> chamber was so long that it lasted until the
> shafts reached the surface? What kind of work
> could it be?

I believe there were men inside the grand gallery lifting ballast or counterweight.

> It seems to me that the king ascended to the stars
> only once. I don’t remember any sources that would
> say otherwise.

698d. N. is the eye of Re'‘, which was conceived in the night and born each day.

732a. Thou belongest to the nhh.w (-stars), the servants, of Re', who are before the morning star.
732b. Thou wilt be born (again) at thy new moons (feasts) like the moon
732c. while re' leans upon thee in the horizon, N.,

733a. and the imperishable stars serve (follow) thee.

759b. endued with the form of Osiris; on the throne of him who is First of the Westerners,
759c. and doest what he was accustomed to do among the spirits, the imperishable star.

1366c. when thou ascendest to heaven as a star, as the morning star.
1367a. N. is come to thee, his father; he is come to thee, geb;

1081a. If mmt.w (a star?) is high, I will be high with him,

2014b. when thou ascendest as a star, as the morning star.

Some Egyptologists believe this was a nightly journey and I agree with them.

> Well, please argue why the ventilation shafts
> hypothesis has the right to exist.

For the reasons already stated.

Obviously it couldn't really be only for ventilation because it it far too complex and difficult to build for this purpose. But I believe it is so important it even gets a mention in the "cultural context" as serket's air siphon and this is how they thought of it. I believe their word for these shafts was " 'nn.twi." (bird legs" was actually pretty close).

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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



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