cladking Wrote:
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> The best example and the most important since it
> proves the point is I[].t-wt.t
>
> This is Egyptian for carbon dioxide. Specifically
> it is gas (of) yeast probably. It really doesn’t
> matter what the exact translation is. The only
> thing that really matters is what is the referent
> for I[].t-wt.t? The word is used several times in
> the Pyramid Texts and CO2 is the only referent
> that fits in each case.
>
> 2109. The sky trembles, the earth quakes before
> the god, before N.
> 2110a. N. by the earth;
> 2110b. ’I [];.t-wt.t, thou art not enveloped by
> the earth.
> 2110c. Thy fame is by day; thy fear is by night,
> as a god, lord of fear.
>
> This one is a perfect fit. It says that CO2 is
> not enveloped by the earth (during the eruption)
> and that CO2 is a subject of learned discussion by
> day (when the wind blows) and a source of fear by
> night (when the wind slows by cooling the CO2 will
> puddle in low areas and reach fatal
> concentrations). There are other discussions
> about the “evil comings” of their Gods”. The
> great Goddess Isis is even said to sometimes have
> a bad stench.
>
> 788b. the efflux goes forth from the god, the
> secretion which comes out of Osiris,
> 788c. so that thy hands may be washed, so that
> thine ears may be open.
> 789a. This power is spiritualized by means of its
> soul.
> 789b. Wash thyself for thy ka washes itself. Let
> thy ka be seated,
> 789c. that it may eat bread with thee, without
> ceasing eternally.
> 790a. Thy going is as a successor of Osiris;
> 790b. thy face is before thee; thine homage is
> before thee.
> 791a. It is agreeable to thy nose on account of
> the smell of ’I[];.t-wt.t;
>
> CO2 is the efflux of the God. Some people can
> smell this gas but in all probability they are
> referring to the mixture of grease, natron, and
> mucilaginous myrrh that was used to degas this
> water. Sodium bicarbonate and seltzer water is
> even an old folk remedy for cleaning ears.
>
> 198a. O ’Inw-Crown, thou has come forth from him
> as he came forth from thee.
> 198b. The great ’I[];.t has given birth to thee,
> the ’I[];.t-wt.t has adorned thee;
> 198c. the ’I[];.t-wt.t has given birth to thee,
> the great ’I[];.t has adorned thee,
>
> The crown is the top of the water column. Gas
> gave birth to it and yeast gas adorns it with
> bubbles.
>
> 1503a. His head is lifted up by Re‘; his odour is
> that of the ’I[];.t-wt.t-serpent.
> 1503b. The head of N. also is lifted up by Re‘;
> the odour of N. is as that of
> ’I[];.t-wt.t-serpent.
>
> They considered CO2 a gift of the sun or an
> element of the sun. Serpents are natural and
> artificial leaks of water or gas.
>
> 1922 (Nt. 743). Thou enterest when thy father Geb
> is protecting thee.
> 1922 + 1 (Nt. 744). If (thy) father does not know
> thee, he is not alive;
> 1922 + 2 (Nt. 744). if (thy) father calls thee
> "’I[];.t," retreat, such is not thy name.
>
> If the earth calls Osiris gas he should worry.
> But…
>
> 131d. His nurse is ’I[].t;
> 131e. it is she who makes his life (through
> nourishment?); it is she who gave birth to N.
>
> It is gas that makes the life of Osiris.
>
> These are the words of the builders. It is they
> who left words that suggest that it was CO2 that
> built the pyramids. It is they who left a corpus
> that consistently says the same thing. This fit’s
> the actual physical evidence where there is no
> evidence that ramps were used to lift stones.
>
> ____________
> Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.
>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at 09/01/10 06:49PM by
> cladking.



this is the question you are supposd to be answering...


Tommi...."Leaving everything else aside for now, could you try to make your case without any 'I believe's, or anything that only you can see in the pyramid texts."


Your non responce demands a yes or no responce to the following 2 questions...


Can you or can you not read Ancient Egyptian?

Is there any hard evidence for the existence of Geysers at Giza 4 1/2 millenia ago?


Thanks




Wawick



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