Tommi Huhtamaki Wrote:
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> > > Geysers at Giza.
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> What I have been asking for is a calculation of
> the total amount of water that would have been
> squirted out of the thing on the plateu, and what
> I would like to see would be a comparison of the
> erosion/corrosion with some place where equal
> amounts of water has flowed.
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> Saying water at an altitude = geysirs, and then
> claiming all the evidence points to geysirs is
> intellectually extremely lazy. The research
> haven't even begun, and we're expected to disprove
> something so poorly evidenced.


It would require in the neighborhood of 3,500 acre feet of water in 20 years or 175 acre feet per year if they could achieve 100% efficiency. This has to be approximate because it's unknown how much lifting on the pyramids could be done with the cliff face counterweights. It appears these were set up to primarily move stone to the pyramid and assist at low levels. Of course 100% efficiency is impossible and at some stages efficiciency would be low due to lack of ability to store water and great need for it. This would have been between about 70' and 160' or more than a fifth of the volume or about five years of construction.

I believe they had simple tools that would make this easier and more efficient. Certainly the wheel had been in existence a thousand years when DJozers Pyramid was built. They had a metal shop that was large and important enough that it gets three or four mentions in the cemeteries at Giza and a pulley is much simpler in concept than a wheel. I believe they used pulleys at the tops of the runs. This isn't especially important to using water to build but it's more in keeping with their implied level of technology and ability. Most importantly is that it greatly extends the life times of the ropes. It improves efficiency about 20%. I believe that with pulleys and over the life of the project they could have achieved 50% efficiency so would need about 350 acre feet of water per year. This appears a rather startling number for a geyser but the presumption is that they had very good control over this and this was in a rather remarkable geyser field. They apparently used natron and other chemicals to cause eruptions and learned to stop backflow into the well and other tricks to maximize "production". It was the djed used to control these wells and djed means stable and enduring.

If the grand gallery was used to raise water from 80' to 160' then total requirements for water would be much less. They could easily maintain 5 HP in here which would constitute a large percentage of total lifting needs at the higher altitudes. More importantly to the builders it would save great amounts of rigging since stones could be moved 160' at a time instead of a mere 80'. Unfortunately for the calculations it imposes much more need early on for water and reduces the total efficiency for the project; they couldn't use "excess" water in year 20 to help in year 1.

At these lower levels they might have passed some water up the side of the pyramid. They could achieve a mechanical advantage or a lifting advantage by varying the angles of the counterweight runs. The "girdle stones" in the ascending passage might have been dams to hold back water being passed upward. Sometimes air shafts are just air shafts.

If this is the general means to build then many of the details will be deducible with data that can be found.

Even if they had water this is a simply remarkable achievement. It's not only remarkable that they could engineer such a stupendous feat with ancient economy and knowledge but the amount of wiork is stupendous. Quarrying, rigging, boat building, maintenance, and operation required great skill and cooperation as well as clock like timing. But this is consistent with the titles of the overseers and the information available. The theory still needs verification simply because it's easily proven or disproven due to its nature.

There are other possibilities for means by which water could have naturally aoppeared at 80' but most are quite improbable and none are consistent with the idea that Osiris is cool effervescent water that tosses at Giza. These other possibilities are more difficult to prove or disprove. It's simply easier to check for signs of mineral deposition and such things first. I have no doubt some bright person can come up with a very quick test or even know where there's sufficient data in the record.



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