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May 5, 2024, 7:07 am UTC    
August 31, 2010 04:25PM
Jammer Wrote:
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> Geysers at Giza.
> 1) There is no sign of the mineral deposits one
> would expect from a geyser.

Vyse believed that there was no sand at Giza when construction began.

If there was water then this is the most heavily disturbed site in the world and it started before the pyramids were built. There may have been cause to remove any soil they made for farming or growing herbs.

> 2) There is no sign of the corrosive (note; not
> erosive, corrosive) effects of a CO2 rich cold
> water geyser.

CO2 in water is very corrosive and given time will become saturated in numerous minerals to which it is exposed. Saturation amounts can be quite high for many chemicals and things like copper sulphate are miscible in carbonic acid.

If there were geysers then it is probable the source of the CO2 was at a great distance which increases the chances that the solution would be saturated in any given chemical. Once it's saturated it can no longer dissolve that chemical is not corrosive to it. It would be saturated with most of the calcium carbonates very early on.

As soon as the gas starts coming out of solution it will begin trying to deposit any chemicals in which it is saturated. This means that it has little ability to corrode most things adfter the point it is erupting deep under the ground. It deposits minerals not dissolves them.

> 3) After extensive excavations all over the G1
> area, that has uncovered boat pits, tunnels under
> other constructs, etc, they have never found
> anything remotely resembling a well head, drilling
> rock waste, or a geyser head.

They've never looked.

It's not as though there would be large numbers of these. Their location is in a place that is improbable to be dug up. I believe Vyse got very close to the well for G1 about 35' east of the centerline on the north side and ten feet from the base. He dug down a great distance but gave up when a boy could dig no deeper in a large fissure.

Most of the equipment could not survive. The wood rots and the metal would have been recovered.

> 4) There is a cave system under Giza that shows no
> sign of the erosion, corrosion, and rubbish
> removal large amounts of effluent from any geyser
> should have left. Nor is there any sign of any way
> to keep a free discharging geyser out of these
> areas. So therefore I think it's safe to posit
> there never was such effluent.

All caves are formed by the corrosive action of ground water. Of course water heavily laden with CO2 is far more corrosive. There is simply no reason to believe any specific cave or tunnel must have contained carbonic acid if they used geysers to build. Until the specific conduit is found all of these are just part of the natural plumbing. Don't forget that the "Osiris Shaft" has a great deal of missing material. Maybe they didn't pull nearly as much material out of here as is assumed. Perhaps much of it was already dissolved away.



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The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Jammer August 31, 2010 03:04PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki August 31, 2010 03:18PM

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Khazar-khum August 31, 2010 03:51PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 04:32PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 06:35AM

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cladking August 31, 2010 04:06PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki August 31, 2010 04:15PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 09:11PM

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cladking September 01, 2010 10:18PM

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cladking September 01, 2010 10:31PM

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Warwick L Nixon September 01, 2010 11:44PM

Re: The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

cladking September 02, 2010 12:04AM

Re: The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 12:52AM

Examples of you bending PT to fit your will!

Jammer September 02, 2010 06:40AM

Re: Examples of you bending PT to fit your will!

cladking September 02, 2010 10:31AM

Re: Examples of you bending PT to fit your will!

Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 10:37AM

Re: Examples of you bending PT to fit your will!

cladking September 02, 2010 10:58AM

endless flawed methodology

Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 11:06AM

Re: endless flawed methodology

cladking September 02, 2010 11:32AM

endless flawed methodology

Jammer September 02, 2010 11:50AM

But Jammer...

Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 01:08PM

Re: But Jammer...

cladking September 02, 2010 02:12PM

Re: But Jammer...

Jammer September 02, 2010 02:32PM

Re: But Jammer...

cladking September 02, 2010 02:53PM

Re: endless flawed methodology

cladking September 02, 2010 02:06PM

your critical theory flaw;

Jammer September 02, 2010 02:36PM

I Get It

Khazar-khum September 02, 2010 02:44PM

Re: your critical theory flaw;

cladking September 02, 2010 03:00PM

Re: your critical theory flaw;

Jammer September 02, 2010 03:20PM

thanks n/t

cladking September 02, 2010 03:21PM

Re: The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

lobo-hotei September 02, 2010 08:53AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 10:35AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 10:46AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 11:05AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 01:14PM

The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Jammer September 02, 2010 02:02PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 02:39PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 02:46PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:20PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 11:55AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:30PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki September 02, 2010 01:53AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 10:55AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 11:02AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 11:25AM

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lobo-hotei September 02, 2010 11:27AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 11:34AM

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cladking September 02, 2010 04:57PM

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Jammer August 31, 2010 04:16PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:32PM

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Rick Baudé August 31, 2010 04:20PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:33PM

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Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 08:44PM

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lobo-hotei September 01, 2010 07:59AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 01:29PM

The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Jammer September 02, 2010 12:35PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:36PM

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Roxana Cooper September 01, 2010 08:12AM

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cladking September 01, 2010 10:20PM

The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Jammer September 02, 2010 12:37PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:43PM

The argument for Evidence at G1... Geysers, Ramps, something else?

Jammer August 31, 2010 04:14PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:40PM

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Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 08:46PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:49PM

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Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 10:07PM

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lobo-hotei September 01, 2010 08:03AM

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cladking September 01, 2010 10:23PM

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Warwick L Nixon September 01, 2010 11:47PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 12:08AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 02, 2010 12:39AM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 12:44PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 02:16PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki September 02, 2010 02:31PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:48PM

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Rebby September 02, 2010 02:40PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 05:07PM

**Thread closure**

Hermione September 02, 2010 05:36PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 12:40PM

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Rick Baudé August 31, 2010 03:41PM

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Khazar-khum August 31, 2010 03:52PM

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mlpeel August 31, 2010 05:11PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:52PM

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Khazar-khum September 01, 2010 12:09AM

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lobo-hotei September 01, 2010 08:06AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 01, 2010 01:11PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 12:46PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 03:23PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 08:47PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 04:25PM

just a couple of points...

Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 05:19PM

Re: just a couple of points...

cladking August 31, 2010 09:03PM

Re: just a couple of points...

Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 10:34PM

Re: just a couple of points...

Jammer September 02, 2010 01:01PM

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Khazar-khum August 31, 2010 06:28PM

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Warwick L Nixon August 31, 2010 08:36PM

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cladking August 31, 2010 09:09PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 01:47PM

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Jammer September 02, 2010 12:52PM

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cladking September 02, 2010 05:01PM



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