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December 01, 2009 01:10PM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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> WN: "what does instinct have to do with
> eyesight?"
>
>
> Instinct or common sense has a lot to do with this
> - if you are not visually impaired, eyesight
> should not be an issue, although it sometimes can
> be - some years ago my son's friend came to our
> house in an excited state - he had just seen a UFO
> - a big blob of light in the sky that moved
> erratically. I quickly strapped on a gas mask,
> went outside and saw Venus shining brightly above
> my neighbor's house. I asked the young man if it
> was the UFO he saw, and he said yes, so I asked
> him to look at it for a while and tell me if it
> moved, and sure enough it did - a quick movement
> sharply downwards and then upwards. I saw no
> movement, but I noticed he was wearing glasses -
> perhaps an involuntary movement of his eyeballs
> gave the impression the blob of light moved
> erratically.
>
>
> Look at Orion when it's due south - if you live on
> the west coast of Canada it will be way past
> midnight this time of the year, but if you manage
> to stay awake, Orion's belt is more or less how
> the AE would have seen it in the Early Dynastic -
> early Old Kingdom. You see 3 stars, the 2 outer
> stars equidistant apart from the middle star,
> angled about 34 degs upwards so the star on the
> furthest right (west) is higher up than the other
> two, and if you look more carefully, the third
> star to the right (west) is slightly offset
> upwards from the line of the other two lower
> down.
>
> Draw what you see on a piece of paper, and unless
> your'e a shift-shaping lizard with designs on
> controlling our planet, what you see on your paper
> should be what you see in the sky - the uppermost
> star on the right is nearer the top right of your
> paper - what you have drawn is similar to the site
> layout at Giza - all the ancient Egyptian
> architect had to do, was hand his drawing over to
> the surveyors and say this is the site plan, scale
> it up and mark out three building sites on the
> plateau - it's that simple - well not quite that
> simple, but I hope you get the point. If the
> uppermost star in the sky is lower down on your
> paper then, all I can say is, Houston, we have a
> problem! If not, flip the paper over so that the
> top of the paper is now the bottom and look
> through the paper from the other side to your
> drawing, and you will see a mirror image of what
> you see in the sky - the upper star on the right
> is now the lower star on the right. If the site
> layout is now your mirror image it will look
> unnatural, not at all like what you see in the
> sky, which is most probably why the AE would not
> do it the way you "see" it.
>
> If you absolutely insist that you just cannot
> "see" it any other way than the way you "see" it,
> don't make the mistake of asserting this is one
> proof the Giza 3 cannot possibly be a symbolic
> representation of the the 3-star asterism.
> Someone might describe a pyramid as a pointed roof
> with no walls, another that it's 4 triangular
> walls on a square base with no roof - who is
> right? - well both views are right - people "see"
> things differently sometimes.
>
>
> CT
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at 12/01/09 05:03AM by
> Hermione.


how casually you equate instinct with common sense sad smiley

I have allready explained that my eyes do not see what you wish me to.

I have no instinctive reason to do so either..but now you have gone even further

you have equated my not seeing what you want me to see to my eyes being reptilian

and then to top it off

"flip the paper over so that the
> top of the paper is now the bottom and look
> through the paper from the other side to your
> drawing, and you will see a mirror image of what
> you see in the sky "

Incredible...but not satisfied with that you go one step further..

"If you absolutely insist that you just cannot "see" it any other way than the way you "see" it, don't make the mistake of asserting this is one proof the Giza 3 cannot possibly be a symbolic representation of the the 3-star asterism. "

I have not asserted anything of the kind

My smidgeon of common sense knows more than anything that one cannot Proove a negative.

what I am saying is that as I do not see a correlation I have no grounds for assuming that there might be.

On the other hand I am willing to entertain the notion that some people do see it..and that even the AE's might have.

Further to entertaining that notion I must consider why they would do so

the two reasons proferred as I understand them are

1.Homage to Osiris

2.and AE beliefs being rooted in a star cult.

in respect to both

I have spent the last 8 years forcing my geriatric mind to understanding Old Kingdom Hieroglphs...far from an easy task
I have concentrated most of my research on the Early pre and proto dynastic

What I have learned is that central to everything is the role of the King

this study has only reinforced the other Obstacle to this correlation (other than an ofter the thought creation of same by Menkaure)

ie the notion that any one King's Transition from corporeal existence is in any way dependant on events that occur after "The Opening of His Mouth"

one more point

"Look at Orion when it's due south - if you live on the west coast of Canada it will be way past midnight this time of the year, but if you manage to stay awake"

I haven't allways lived there

I have been as fasr North as Ellesmere Island..

visited or lived in every province of Canada..

all but 3 US states

Mexico

Guatamala

The British Isles

most of Europe

and Morocco

I am very much aware that I have to appreciate where Orion was in the sky relative to Giza in 2500 BCE to fairly assess the situation

I believe I have done so. No one has yet been able to convince me that I am incorrect..

How is that possibly my fault?

Of course if you believe that this is a matter of not wishing it to be correct

thentherre is absolutely no constructive point in my discussing anything with you is there?


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