March 18, 2009 12:55PM
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In case anyone here actually wants to familiarise themselves with any of the evidence before drawing conclusions, here's the full abstract for the paper that nobody has heard or read yet, which is being presented at the conference in Chicago shortly. This is in addition to the earlier link to the documentary that nobody has watched yet.
Please note I have drawn no conclusions on any of this yet, as correct methodology demands.
Dave Lightbody
Department of Archaeology
University of Glasgow
The 78th annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists will be held in Chicago, Illinois, March 31-April 4, 2009
Program of the seventy-eight Annual Meeting of the
American Association of Physical Anthropologists
To be held at the
Sheraton Chicago Hotel and Tower
301 East North Water Street
Chicago, IL 60611
AAPA Scientific Program Committee:
Lorena Madrigal, Chair and Program Editor,
Arsinoe IV of Egypt, sister of Cleopatra identified? – Osseous andmolecular challenges.
F. Kanz1,2, K. Grossschmidt1, J. Kiesslich3. 1Center of Anatomy andCell-Biology, Medical University of Vienna, 2Austrian Archaeological Institute, 3Interfacultary Department of LegalMedicine, Paris Lodron University of Salzburg.
Arsinoe IV of Egypt, the younger sister of Cleopatra, was murdered between the ages of 16 and 18 on the order of Marc Antony in 41 BC while living in political asylum at the Artemision in Ephesus (Turkey). Archaeological findings and architectural features point to the skeletal remains found in the socalled Oktogon - Heroon in the center of ancient Ephesus - to being those of Arsinoe IV. Respective remains were dated and investigated by forensic osteology, radiology and ancient DNA analysis to assess identification: Radiocarbon dating (VERA-4104) isolated the period between 210 and 20 BC (94 % prob.). Morphological features suggest a female with an estimated body heightof 154 cm (+/- 3 cm) and with limbs in good proportion to one another. Epiphyseal closure and histological age estimation (femoral cross sections) revealed a consistent age at death between 15 and 17 years. The whole skeleton appeared to belong to a slim and fragile individual (soft tissue reconstruction was applied and compared to ancient sources). Stress markers, like Harris’ lines were absent and no signs for heavy workload or pre- or perimortal traumas were found. Ancient DNA analysis was carried out for several bone samples. No nuclear DNA was detected, most likely due to diagenetic factors and storage conditions. Endeavors to find mitochondrial DNA are currently in progress. Investigations could neither verify nor disprove the theory on the origin of the remains. However, after successful mtDNA typing a maternal relative reference sample would be required for final identification.
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