March 17, 2009 01:53PM
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Some Pharoahs were undoubtedly what we would today call 'black'. The founder of the
great 12th dynasty described himself as the son of a woman from Nubia and so was probably
darker than tan. And of course the conquest of the later Nubian Kings is well known. The
problem lies in trying to stick AEs of any complexion into a particular category since
skin color clearly mattered less than nothing to them. The Ptolemys were a foreign dynasty
imposed by conquest. Their seat, Alexandria, was totally graecized and the inhabitants were far from respectful or tolerant of the natives. Known Ptolemaic consorts were either Ptolemies themselves or from identified Macedonian dynasties. It is HIGHLY probable that even a royal concubine would be of good Greek birth rather than a native Egyptian or more
southernly. Ptolemy XII's only known spouse, Cleopatra VI, was almost certainly a Ptolemy
and definitely the mother of his eldest daughter. It is quite possible she was the mother
of all the rest as well.
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