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May 17, 2024, 8:08 am UTC    
July 24, 2008 01:38AM
Robert Bauval Wrote:
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> > There is really no "element of confusion" in
> Belmonte and Shaltout's paper and their
> conclusions. I think it's all very clear and their
> conclusions well balanced.
>
> Sorry, but the only confusion I see here was
> created by you. You made a statement that was
> misinformed. That in itself is not so bad were it
> not for the fact that my first message on this
> thread not only carefully explains the final
> position of these scholars, but even put a link to
> their article.

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According to those two authors, who obtained a wide distribution of orientations for
temples in the Nile Valley, it seems certain that temples were orientated to the Nile. Only when they factored in the orientation of the river at the time of construction did any sense come out of the data.
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i. The temples of the Nile Valley and the Delta were orientated according to the Nile as our data have clearly illustrated, but ...

ii. The temples were also astronomically orientated beyond any reasonable doubt as all the successive analyses we have done to our data fully demonstrate. This means that the ancient Egyptians had to deal with special situations to accomplish both necessities. This problem was solved by the selection of appropriate orientations of one or the other class at different places so that they would be compatible (quarter-cardinal directions is a good example of this), or by the election of selected places in Egypt were the Nile prescription and a conspicuous astronomical orientation were simultaneously achieved."

Hermione's quote speaks directly towards Nile alignment and nothing towards astronomical alignment unless you can show me where she says "No way in hell is astronomical alignments justified...." or similar.
The first part(i) says the same thing(Underlined text compared). In fact it reads to me that the Nile alignments took priority with astronomical alignments found to fit.


> Just admit you were wrong, and leave it at that.
> It's always a mistake to try and talk your way out
> of one.

It is also a mistake to jump to conclusions without asking for clarification. Of course that often happens when the ego has the reins.

Lobo-hotei
lobo

Treat the earth well, It was not given to you by your parents, It was loaned to you by your children.
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Subject Author Posted

The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 08:20AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Hermione July 23, 2008 10:58AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 11:46AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Hermione July 23, 2008 12:33PM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 01:48PM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

lobo-hotei July 24, 2008 01:38AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Robert Bauval July 24, 2008 02:24AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

lobo-hotei July 24, 2008 02:33AM

Re: The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Ogygos July 24, 2008 12:18PM

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Hermione July 24, 2008 02:35PM



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