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May 18, 2024, 11:14 pm UTC    
July 23, 2008 12:33PM
Robert Bauval Wrote:
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> You obviously have not read their paper No. 4, and
> the conclusions they draw from their overall
> investigation. I did put a link in my previous
> message, though.
>
> To quote from paper No. 4, pp. 1, 12 and 13:
> "Three successive papers (1,2 and 3) have been
> published about the temples where, stage by stage,
> we have analysed the relation of temple
> orientation and location with local landscape,
> understanding landscape in its broadest meaning of
> both terrestrial (basically the Nile) or celestial
> (astronomical orientations) aspects. Our work is
> demonstrating that both components were neccessary
> and indeed intimately correlated."
>
> "The temples of the Nile Valley and the Delta were
> orientated were orientated to the Nile as our data
> have clearly demonstrated, but they were also
> astronomically orientated beyond any reasonable
> doubt as all the successive analyses we have done
> to our data fully demonstrates."
>
> "As a matter of fact, this overview illustrates
> something that we could only imagine at the
> beginning of our project: ancient Egyptians
> undoubtedly looked at the sky with scutinized eyes
> in a permanent search for their correct
> orientation not only in time but also in space."
>
>
> As you can see, your hasty knee-jerking comments
> are totally contradicted.
> It's one thing to oppose the idea of astronomical
> orientation for Egyptian temples, but quite
> another to make uninformed --and thus misleading--
> statements to express one viewpoint, especially
> when the published information was presented in my
> previous message.

Before accusing me of uninformed, knee-jerk reactions, you might want to read the end of the paper to which you linked. As you will see, there does seem to be an element of confusion in Belmonte/Shaltout's comments:
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However, we want to stress a few particular results that are real highlights of the analysis of the complete series of data as presented in this paper. These are:

i. The temples of the Nile Valley and the Delta were orientated according to the Nile as our data have clearly illustrated, but ...

ii. The temples were also astronomically orientated beyond any reasonable doubt as all the successive analyses we have done to our data fully demonstrate. This means that the ancient Egyptians had to deal with special situations to accomplish both necessities. This problem was solved by the selection of appropriate orientations of one or the other class at different places so that they would be compatible (quarter-cardinal directions is a good example of this), or by the election of selected places in Egypt were the Nile prescription and a conspicuous astronomical orientation were simultaneously achieved."

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The Orientation of Temples in Egypt

Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 08:20AM

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Hermione July 23, 2008 10:58AM

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Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 11:46AM

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Hermione July 23, 2008 12:33PM

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Robert Bauval July 23, 2008 01:48PM

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lobo-hotei July 24, 2008 01:38AM

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Robert Bauval July 24, 2008 02:24AM

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lobo-hotei July 24, 2008 02:33AM

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Ogygos July 24, 2008 12:18PM

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