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May 8, 2024, 9:08 am UTC    
August 08, 2007 05:20PM
Answer: none of the above!

LOL


It was Quirke I was remembering. I thought of it right after I posted my last response. It works together with Pinch, though, so I'll try and assemble my thought process here for you. I'm in a wicked rush right now (dinner's overcooking while I type), but I'll try and get the gist across to you.

Start on page 52, Quirke, Sun Cult of Ra, with the opening of the Underworld Book:

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The writings of the Hidden Chamber...

Knowing the secret powers....

There is an occult backdrop to the spells. They are secret.

Now, move forward to page 64, "Degrees of Participation in ancient Egyptian Religion".

He goes on to show that these powerful texts were reserved for the king and the king only. They must have been kept secret somewhere.

I'll type some bits, but my scanner isn't working, so I can't do the entire section.

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In the surviving temples, undoubtedly rather different from the solar shrines, at least this demarcation of different levels of access appears with dramatic clarity. According to a scheme repeated from the New Kingdom to the Roman Period, the least accessible area comprises the innermost halls, on a slightly raised floor level, like the first mound of creation, with lower ceilings and little or no light. Here the secret rites of the cult were performed in the presence of the image of the deity.

I know he's talking primarily about the rituals here, but spells and rituals were very closely related, as I'm sure you know.

Carry this idea forward into the Pinch, p. 50. She basically talks about the carry-forward of the knowledge, and says "It is even possible that the written magic was a royal monopoly for a time". Granted, that's not evidence, but I'm assembling a context here. Bottom of page 51:

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Many cult temples, and perhaps some mortuary temples, had a House of Life inside or close to their sacred area. This institution was like a library, scriptorium, school and university all in one. Subjects such as medicine and astronomy were studied there, but the production and transmission of protective rituals seems to have been the main function of the Houses of Life The lector priests were skilled in reading books kept in the House of Life. Their reputation as dream interpretors was probably based on the consultation of standard "Dream Books". Although they were subject to the same rules of ritual purity as other priests, lector priests were not part of the main temple hierarchy. They probably played no part in the daily service in the sanctuary, but they were in charge of some of the magical rituals which were performed in temples on a less regular basis.

She goes on to say they officiated at funerals. That's an important distinction from the other magician/priests.

Now, contrast that with the level of spells and such that we find in the Sekhmet priests (physicians). If memory serves, they would often be buried with their texts and tools. We find no such burials with the Lector priests, I don't think. Those materials were kept secret somewhere.

I'm out of time, but that's a general outline of the material that led me to the conclusion I posted earlier. I hope the typos aren't too bad.



Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Subject Author Posted

Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 09:35AM

In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:38AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:53AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:06AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 11:57AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:50PM

Request ...

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Joe_S September 20, 2007 03:05AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:04AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:07AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:20AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 01:01PM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 01:27PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 01:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:00PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:25PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:26PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:40PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:36PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 03:38PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:41PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:20PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:30PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:51PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 11:45PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:09AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:37AM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 10:12AM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 11:14AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:17PM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 01:31PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 09:55AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:01AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

cladking August 08, 2007 10:35AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:57PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:03PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:59PM

OH!!!!!!

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Chris Tedder August 08, 2007 02:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ken B August 08, 2007 03:53PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:34PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:59PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 06:07PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:20PM



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