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May 8, 2024, 3:17 pm UTC    
August 08, 2007 02:17PM
Rick: "According to my current understanding the PT's were supposedly a collection of texts that had been assembled over a period of centuries, rewritten, reedited, recollated and finally carved onto the pyramid of Unas."



Some comments on the PTs by J.P. Allen, one of the foremost translators of ancient Egyptian texts:


"Although they are first attested in the pyramid of Unis, most of the Pyramid Texts are undoubtedly older. With few exceptions, their grammar is that of a stage of the language that disappeared from secular inscriptions at least fifty years earlier, and the architecture of the pyramid chambers that they reflect came into use at the end of the Fourth Dynasty, more than a hundred years before Unis's time. Some of the texts reflect burial practices that are even older, in earthen graves beneath tombs built of mudbrick. Newer spells that first appear in the later pyramids, however, incorporate features of the contemporary language.


Overall, the Pyramid Texts give the impression of a corpus that had been in use for some time before it was inscribed in Unis's pyramid and one that was continually revised and amplified during the reigns of his successors.............Although the Pyramid Texts of the Old Kingdom were inscribed only in royal tombs, the texts themselves give evidence of a less exclusive use. Many of them were originally in the first person, meant to be spoken by the deceased's spirit and thus not restricted to a particular individual. Those addressed to the deceased by name occasionally preserve indications of a generic original, with directions to the celebrant indicating where the deceased's name was to be inserted. A few spells from the king's pyramids also seem to make reference to the deceased as someone other than the king himself.


Occasional mistakes in the use of some hieroglyphic signs indicate that the master from which the texts were transcribed to the pyramid walls was a papyrus scroll written in a semi-cursive script - in line with the comments of the preceding paragraph, probably a manuscript that was not specific to any one individual. The inscriptions in the pyramids of Unis and Pepi I, which have been studied in detail, show traces of editorial revision after the texts were first carved - in the case of Pepi I, even amounting to revision of entire sections of a wall. Most of the editorial revisions have to do with the replacement of an original first-person pronoun by the deceased's name or a third-person referent, thus "personalizing" the texts for each pyramid.... 

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Subject Author Posted

Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 09:35AM

In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:38AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:53AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:06AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 11:57AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:50PM

Request ...

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Joe_S September 20, 2007 03:05AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:04AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:07AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:20AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 01:01PM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 01:27PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 01:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:00PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:25PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:26PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:40PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:36PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 03:38PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:41PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:20PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:30PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:51PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 11:45PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:09AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:37AM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 10:12AM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 11:14AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:17PM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 01:31PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 09:55AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:01AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

cladking August 08, 2007 10:35AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:57PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:03PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:59PM

OH!!!!!!

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Chris Tedder August 08, 2007 02:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ken B August 08, 2007 03:53PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:34PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:59PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 06:07PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:20PM



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