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August 08, 2007 10:20AM
Anthony Wrote:
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> Rick Baudé Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If they were written over a period of
> "centuries"
> > wouldn't we have at least fragments of
> various
> > prayers from here and there from the
> previous
> > centuries?
>
>
> Not if they were only on papyrus in heavily
> secured places within the temples. They probably
> would have been the first things looted... and
> later destroyed.
>

At the risk of detonating the "fallacy bomb". You're "arguing from silence" on this one. How do we know the temples were "heavily secured". What were they armed with? Spears? AK-47's? No the first things that would have been looted would have been the gold statues, then the copper statues, then any gemstones, then any tools hammers, chisels, next the crowds would have stolen the fine china and any furniture they could carry away, but a bunch of illegible texts would have been last. AFAIK we have a variety of papyrus fragments, inscribed mastabas, lots of seals with various one line messages on them. But no PT texts outside of the pyramids. And we have four dyansties of pyramids before them and not a SINGLE line of any kind of inscription on them. Maybe because the PT's hadn't been written yet. Food for thought as Don Barone says.
>
> AFAIK we don't have a thing. The PT's
> > show up "All-at-once" in Una's tomb. I know
> about
> > changes in grammar and the texts themselves
> are
> > subtly transformed from one tomb to the next
> which
> > would be normal considering the fact that
> they
> > were probably working in the dark and didn't
> have
> > any word processors to copy texts with. So
> IMO it
> > doesn't flatly rule out the single author
> > conjecture. Consider the Book of Mormon,
> the
> > Koran, the Five Books of Moses, etc. all
> > supposedly the work of a single person.
>
>
> No, it's not that the grammar changes from tomb to
> tomb, but some of the grammar is very old by the
> time it first appears, matching grammar used in
> other contexts that is much older. Some of the
> texts, however, us grammar that is relatively
> new.

True, but this could have been an inserted text such as "to be or not to be" would be an inserted phrase from an older text into this message. I know that the AE's were good at archaizing texts when they wanted too.
>
> The problem lies in deciding how they might have
> altered older documents to serve newer purposes.
> The inclusion of sAH, for example, in the Cannibal
> Hymn, may not be an original element. That's the
> tough part.
>
>
I don't doubt that once the texts were written that they were instantly altered, but I still can't help but wonder if the were the result of a single author or editor.
I agree.
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
> [www.GizaBuildingProject.com]
>
Quote:"Men are apt to mistake the strength of
> their feeling for the strength of their argument.
> The heated mind resents the chill touch and
> relentless scrutiny of logic." -- William E.
> Gladstone
>
> For magic is so mixed up with the world's history
> that, if the latter is ever to be written at all
> in its completeness, giving the truth and nothing
> but the truth, there seems to be no help for it.
> If Archaeology counts still upon discoveries and
> reports upon hieratic writings that will be free
> from the hateful subject, then HISTORY will never
> be written, we fear.-- H.P. Blavatsky
>


Subject Author Posted

Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 09:35AM

In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:38AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:53AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:06AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 11:57AM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 12:50PM

Request ...

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Joe_S September 20, 2007 03:05AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:04AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:07AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:20AM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 01:01PM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 01:27PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 01:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:00PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:25PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 02:26PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:40PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:36PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 03:38PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 03:41PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:20PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:23PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:30PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 05:37PM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 05:51PM

Re: In a word: no.

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:56PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 11:45PM

Re: In a word: no.

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 10:09AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 10:37AM

Re: In a word: no.

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 10:12AM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 11:14AM

Re: In a word: no.

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:17PM

Re: In a word: no.

Roxana Cooper August 08, 2007 01:31PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Greg Reeder August 08, 2007 09:55AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ritva Kurittu August 08, 2007 09:59AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 10:01AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

cladking August 08, 2007 10:35AM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Hermione August 08, 2007 12:47PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 12:57PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 02:03PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:59PM

OH!!!!!!

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Chris Tedder August 08, 2007 02:17PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Ken B August 08, 2007 03:53PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 05:34PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 05:59PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Rick Baudé August 08, 2007 06:07PM

Re: Were the PT's the creation of a single author?

Anthony August 08, 2007 06:20PM



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