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May 5, 2024, 7:31 am UTC    
August 07, 2007 05:55AM
Hi Ken,

Badaway and Trimble's scholarship is not really relevant here - it is their proposal that is relevant, and it's one that has been widely accepted in mainstream Egyptology by central figures such as the President of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt Zahi Hawass, by Mark Lehner, by Kate Spence and, for example, other participants in the Egyptian Exploration Society conference in 2005 on Ancient Egyptian Astronomy.

Nevertheless, Badaway's proposal that the so called 'Golden Ratio' was used to design and proportion Egyptian architecture IS taken seriously by the experts, most notably by Egyptologist and architectural historian Dr Corrina Rossi of Cambridge, author of "Architecture and Mathematics in Ancient Egypt", University of Cambridge, 2004.

The following article by Badaway is also treated seriously by Barry Kemp and Pamela Rose in the Cambridge Archaeological Journal. 1(1): 103-129 "Proportionality in mind and space in Ancient Egypt"

Badaway, A.
1963 The harmonic system of architectural design in Ancient Egypt. Mitteilungen des Instituts fur Orientforchung. 8. 1-14.

Personally I disagree with Rossi's conclusions regarding the use of these ratio's, but I note this to demonstrate that Badaway is taken seriously. If you see Rossi's book you will also see a plethora of complexity in the diagrams.

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Now, Back to the Star Shafts:

Because the explanation of the function of the shafts is so widely accepted by mainstream scholars and experts, and because the data fits so well, I am not really posting anything more to try and persuade people who refuse to accept the evidence.

I am not really interested any more in what these skeptics refuse to consider.

The reason I found Mr Grinsell's acceptance so interesting is because the subject of the book is wider funerary and burial practices "in Egypt, the Mediterranean and the British Isles"

The book is a decent quality summary of parallel burial practices, and Grinsell clearly sees nothing out of the ordinary with the beliefs of the Egyptians with respect to other cultures regionally and farther afields.

In conclusion, there really is nothing unusual about the Egyptian's belief that the pharaoh would ascend to the stars, and nothing unusual about the star shafts they left behind to allow this to happen. The only unusual aspect is the physical scale and precision with which they were built.

Culturally, they were a perhaps a more developed case of many common themes that are seen farther afield.

Cardinal orientation of sepulchural architecture for example is seen all over Europe, Russia, the British Isles etc.

Dave L


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2007 06:42AM by Dave L.
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Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Dave L August 06, 2007 11:18AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Anthony August 06, 2007 11:21AM

pharaoh's soul ascends to the stars.

Dave L August 06, 2007 11:32AM

Re: pharaoh's soul ascends to the stars.

Anthony August 06, 2007 04:27PM

Re: pharaoh's soul ascends to the stars.

Dave L August 07, 2007 05:58AM

Re: pharaoh's soul ascends to the stars.

Scott Creighton August 07, 2007 06:49AM

Credit not due

Dave L August 07, 2007 07:17AM

Re: Credit not due

Scott Creighton August 07, 2007 07:33AM

Facts versus Opinions

Anthony August 07, 2007 07:15AM

Re: Facts versus Opinions

Dave L August 07, 2007 07:16AM

That's your whole argument?

Anthony August 07, 2007 07:36AM

Re: That's your whole argument?

Dave L August 07, 2007 07:43AM

**Moderation Note**

Hermione August 07, 2007 08:04AM

Re: Facts versus Opinions

Scott Creighton August 07, 2007 08:29AM

Re: Facts versus Opinions

Hermione August 07, 2007 08:35AM

Imaginova Response

Scott Creighton August 06, 2007 12:08PM

Re: Imaginova Response

Chris Tedder August 06, 2007 02:38PM

Re: Imaginova Response

Scott Creighton August 06, 2007 03:49PM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Ronald August 07, 2007 01:08AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Chris Tedder August 07, 2007 03:33AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Ronald August 07, 2007 06:12AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Ken B August 07, 2007 08:54AM

Another pin in the sarcophagus

Anthony August 07, 2007 09:01AM

Flexible methodology?

Dave L August 07, 2007 09:16AM

Not at all

Anthony August 07, 2007 09:20AM

Star Shafts stand.

Dave L August 07, 2007 09:34AM

Again...

Anthony August 07, 2007 10:01AM

Gentlemen ...

Hermione August 07, 2007 10:14AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Ken B August 07, 2007 04:38AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Dave L August 07, 2007 05:55AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

fmetrol August 07, 2007 06:40AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

Dave L August 07, 2007 07:15AM

Re: Star Shafts and Astronomy in Egypt

fmetrol August 07, 2007 08:00AM

There are no "star shafts" in any pyramid in Egypt

Anthony August 07, 2007 09:15AM

methodology

Dave L August 07, 2007 09:18AM

Consistent methodology

Anthony August 07, 2007 09:57AM

The double blind scientific test

Dave L August 07, 2007 10:17AM

Thread closed

Hermione August 07, 2007 10:25AM



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