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May 5, 2024, 6:14 am UTC    
July 08, 2007 01:23PM
RB: The 'toe star'/single star idea by Legon is a red herring and quite erroneous. I do not know of any Egyptologist or archaeoastronomer who support the 'Sah'/single star. It is obvious that 'Sah' contains several stars and was thought of as a 'striding man'; the Decans lists show this very well, as Otto Neugebauer and Richard Parker demonstrated long ago. The dozens of depictions of 'Sah' as a 'striding man', and on the Senmut and Ramses II astronomical ceilings several stars are clearly shown for 'Sah'...Legon is definitely not the authority on such matters.

SC: With respect, Robert, Alexander Badawy, in a paper describing the stellar destiny of the Pharaoh, referred to Osiris as: 'a kind of Prince among the other stars', 'the most powerful among the stars' and 'Orion [probably beta-Orionis] as the brightest star in the southern sky...' Note: a 'star' not a 'constellation'. I take it then that Badawy is not an 'authority' you wish to quote?

With this in mind then, Robert, who exactly do you regard as the authority on such matters since - by your own admission - you seem to have a 'problem' with 'authority' as the snippets below aptly demonstrate:

"...it is well known, however, I am not one who accepts an argument by authority..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]


"...But it really isn't a question of this or that authority claiming this or that ... It a question of logic based on observational astronomy..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

"...But like all other subjects, the true answer to a question must not be formulated from this or that scholarly authority or a scholarly consensus. It must be based on evidence that is convincing and arguments that are logical and sustainable..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

But when it suits your case, you have no problem citing 'authority'.

"... Richard Parker, the authority on the Egyptian calendar, equated ‘wp rnpt’ (opener of the year) with ‘prt spdt’ (‘coming forth of Sirius’). There are many ancient texts (Canopus Decree etc..) that support this..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

"...perhaps I can quote you from Mark Lehner’s latest book on the pyramids. Lehner is regarded as one of the highest authority on the Giza pyramids..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

"...In 2003 the Spanish astronomer Juan Antonio Belmonte, a highly accredited world authority on ancient Egyptian astronomy..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

"...There are also the conclusions by the Swiss astronomer Kurt Locher, a highly respected authority in ancient Egyptian constellations..."

From here:

[www.grahamhancock.com]

You either accept an argument from 'authority' or you don't, Robert. But to say that you don't accept such arguments when clearly you do, smacks of hypocrisy.

Regards,

Scott Creighton




Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2007 02:10PM by creigs1707.
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Osiris-Orion

Robert Bauval July 04, 2007 05:03AM

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Katherine Griffis-Greenberg July 04, 2007 12:14PM

Pole Position.

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Ken B July 04, 2007 11:19AM

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Thadd July 04, 2007 11:26AM

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Jammer July 06, 2007 07:58AM

GOCT Clarification

Scott Creighton July 06, 2007 09:11AM

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Morph July 04, 2007 11:17AM

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Ken B July 04, 2007 11:16AM

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Warwick L Nixon July 07, 2007 10:44AM

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Ken B July 07, 2007 10:51AM

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Warwick L Nixon July 07, 2007 11:16AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 07, 2007 11:02AM

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Morph July 05, 2007 04:04AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 08, 2007 08:26PM

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Robert Bauval July 08, 2007 12:19PM

On Whose Authority?

Scott Creighton July 08, 2007 01:23PM

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Robert Bauval July 08, 2007 07:13PM

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Scott Creighton July 09, 2007 04:38AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 15, 2007 09:02AM

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Joe_S July 16, 2007 03:54PM

Re: Osiris-Orion and extrapolations

Anthony July 11, 2007 10:04AM

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Scott Creighton July 11, 2007 10:25AM

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Morph July 05, 2007 04:27AM

The Face of the Sah God

Ken B July 07, 2007 08:44AM

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Morph July 07, 2007 11:52AM

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Ken B July 07, 2007 02:25PM

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Morph July 08, 2007 11:02AM

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Morph July 09, 2007 04:42AM

Rise and Fall.

Morph July 09, 2007 06:04AM

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Ken B July 09, 2007 07:26AM

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Morph July 09, 2007 08:13AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 07, 2007 11:04AM

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Warwick L Nixon July 07, 2007 11:19AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 07, 2007 11:26AM

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Warwick L Nixon July 07, 2007 11:30AM

Ladies ... gentlemen ...

Hermione July 07, 2007 11:43AM

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Ritva Kurittu July 07, 2007 11:45AM

this is a pretty critical concept to get...

Jammer July 13, 2007 07:59AM

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