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May 13, 2024, 5:25 pm UTC    
July 13, 2007 05:21AM
Jammer - you ask a couple of 'HOW' questions in your post. The one 'HOW' question you did not ask is this:

How on Earth is it possible for a group of ancient people to demonstrate - through the relative placement of the so-called 'Queens Pyramids' - the precessional 'swing' of the Orion Belt stars? This is not - like Bauval's OCT - a simple eye-to-ground correlation. This motion had to be CALCULATED using advanced mathematics and a sound understanding of the astronomy of these stars in order to PROJECT their relative positions and place the positonal markers accordingly (the 'Queens'). If we cannot credit this level of knowledge to the AEs or Sumerians - as it seems we can't - then HOW did it get there?

That's the start point, Jammer. Answer that first. That is what I have been trying to do.

Jammer: When asked how, in the absence of any written record, these plans could be passed down, you linked to a computer graphics rendition of the Giza Pyramids. Does this mean you think this "ancient society" had computer graphics?

SC: You know perfectly well that I am in no way advocating that whoever put this design together used computers. That is just absurd. The graphic I linked to shows a model of Giza and this model - because it is designed to mimic Giza - contains within itself the properties of the precessional swing of the Orion Belt stars. It is not impossible that a model of some kind, perhaps crafted in granite or maybe even in gold - was passed down from the mythical 'First Time', from a relatively advanced civilisation now lost to us. In such a form, advanced precessional knowledge could easily pass down through a 100,000 years if need be.

Jammer: HOW? They believed their ruler was God incarnate. The most vital need would be to please him with the layout of his tomb. Ma'at, duat, and all creation as they knew it depended on this balance. Why would you feel "secretly the builders would want to follow a design to please a society that was now dead in excess of 8,000 years over their own God-King?"

SC: In much the same way, 2,000 years later, Christians still build churches in the shape of the cross, this model would have become sacred. It became part of the AEs cultural and religious beliefs. The AEs themselves tell us that their ancient architectural plans came from the 'heavens'. It is not so unusual that something so sacred would have been regarded as 'building heaven on Earth'. They would have seen this as their duty. And only, in the time of the 4th Dynasty when they had at last mastered building the true pyramid, did they finally put their heaven on Earth at Giza. After that the urgency for pyramid building was gone - the plan was complete. And we see this in the subsequent, inferior pyramid structures and finally a comlete shift away from pyramids to the MTs.

SC

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Nabta Playa Megalithic Alignments

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Advanced Knowledge & Projections

creigs1707 June 30, 2007 04:16AM

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creigs1707 June 30, 2007 07:38AM

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Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

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Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

Jeff van Hout July 01, 2007 05:34AM

Gentlemen ...

Hermione July 01, 2007 06:10AM

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Ronald July 01, 2007 04:33PM

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Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2007 09:43AM

Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

creigs1707 July 01, 2007 06:05AM

False Dichotomy

Anthony July 01, 2007 07:45AM

And in case you forgot...

Anthony July 01, 2007 09:12AM

Re: False Dichotomy

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Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

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The two word answer

Anthony July 02, 2007 08:20AM

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Ronald July 02, 2007 08:33AM

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Re: The two word answer

Anthony July 02, 2007 08:40AM

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Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

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Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

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Mod note II

lobo-hotei July 03, 2007 10:01AM

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creigs1707 July 01, 2007 05:16PM

Strawman Argument

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Puh-leez!

creigs1707 July 01, 2007 06:38PM

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creigs1707 July 02, 2007 03:48AM

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Ronald July 02, 2007 08:29AM

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creigs1707 July 02, 2007 08:39AM

Right back atcha

Anthony July 02, 2007 08:42AM

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creigs1707 July 02, 2007 09:08AM

original temple

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Re: Right back atcha

Jammer July 12, 2007 02:21PM

How?

Scott Creighton July 13, 2007 05:21AM

bypassing the How, lets touch on Who & Why?

Jammer July 13, 2007 07:34AM

Re: bypassing the How, lets touch on Who & Why?

Scott Creighton July 13, 2007 09:01AM

Re: Puh-leez!

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Re: Puh-leez!

Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 09:16AM

It's Orion's Belt. Period.

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Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 09:55AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

creigs1707 July 02, 2007 10:04AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 10:12AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

creigs1707 July 02, 2007 10:31AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 10:38AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

creigs1707 July 02, 2007 10:48AM

Mod Note

lobo-hotei July 02, 2007 10:56AM

Re: It's Orion's Belt. Period.

Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 10:59AM

Re: Puh-leez!

Warwick L Nixon July 02, 2007 10:07AM

Mod note

lobo-hotei July 02, 2007 10:57AM

Re: Advanced Knowledge & Projections

Ronald June 30, 2007 06:24PM

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Robert Bauval July 02, 2007 05:43AM

Think twice before you leap

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Strange...

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Shifting sands...

Morph June 30, 2007 08:48AM

Alignments...

Anthony June 30, 2007 06:48PM

Australia

Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2007 09:45AM

Re: Australia - Yippee!!!!!

Anthony July 01, 2007 09:49AM

Re: Nabta Playa Megalithic Alignments

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