MJ Thomas Wrote:
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> Hello Lobo,
>
> I would like your opinion on something.
YOu can have it though it won't be worth anything as evidence.
> In my attempt to replicate the entire plan of
> Khufu's pyramid (including its sarcophagus/coffer)
> only using multiplication, division, addition and
> subtraction, basic linear geometry (not a circle
> in sight ) a seked 5 1/2, a 10rc x 20rc rectangle,
> and a royal cubit of 524mms, I have uncovered more
> than 40 occurences of the formulae
> half/whole/double Dimension A = Dimension B
> multiplied by 3 1/7 or half/whole/double Dimension
> A = Dimension B divided by 3 1/7*
> Because my hypothesis uses arithmetic and linear
> geometry, the existence of these 40 plus
> occurences of multiplication or division by 3 1/7
> is naturally irrefutable - the maths works or it
> doesn't.
> The question is: is it intentional?
It depends. Without seeing these occurences and how you derived them, and/or how they are positioned in the structure they might be intended, coincidences, artifacts, or pattern finding. I have seen house plans that could hold a "Pi" relation even though the architect was designing the roof pitch for location and weather. I have also seen a 5 yr. old get a compass and draw circles on paper. Because a relation to "Pi" can be found doesn't mean it was intended.
> Now, these formulae not only appear frequently but
> also in a clear, systematic pattern throughout the
> Pyramid's interior - starting with the King's
> Chamber.
What are your "formulaes" found within the King's chamber, besides the obvious 2:1 rectangle ones?
> Their use explain the dimensions of every feature
> of this Pyramid, e.g. the offset of the passages
> from the N-S axis of the base, the location of the
> doorway in the North face, the dimensions of the
> KC and QC shafts, the lengths of the floor blocks
> between the face of the Great Step and the KC, the
> location and dimensions of the step in QC passage,
> the size and location of the Shaft in the Sub.
> Chamber floor, the dimensions of the KC coffer,
> the height of the Great Step, the dimensions of
> the Granite Leaf in the Antechamber, and so on,
> and so on, and so on - and all with millimetric
> accuracy.
They
might explain such, big difference from
does explain such.
> Assuming for the sake of discussion that both the
> data I have drawn on (mostly from Petrie)and my
> (very simple) calculations are correct, what do
> think are the chances of all this being nothing
> more than a coincidence?
I would have to agree with Anthony on this point. With 40 out of possibly thousands of relationships between measurable points doesn't rate overly high. With a Seked of 5 + 1/2 it seems even lower. The 5.5 Seked has a natural tie with approximate values of Pi and circles just like the Seked 5.25 lends itself to the pythagorean formula.
Using either Seked does not automatically prove either connection that is
definitely seen today. I would not be surprised to see an amount of similar related occurences in the other pyramids that were found in the relation of 4(seked used)/7, or any reduced fractional value(5.25/7 = 4/5, or 6.25/7 = 4/3).
This seems like artifacts due to most(not all I think) Sekeds in 1/4 palm increments.
Let me give an example, hopefully reasonable: You have 4 blocks of height equal to 7 palms and width of 5.5 palms(each block having the Seked 5.5) and symmetry.
With these four blocks side by side you can find many of the ratios.From the top, outer corner to the opposite, lower corner(across all four blocks) you have a 22/7 run/rise value(a/b = 3/17). Using only two of the blocks you have 11/7 run/rise(2[a/b] = 3 1/7).
For every even number of blocks/seked widths across/over you would have a relation of (X * run/rise= 1/4X * 3 +1/7)
or (
XSeked/7 = 1/4
X*(3 + 1/7)). For 36 blocks over it would be (36*5.5/7=36/4* 3 + 1/7).
As the AE preferred symmetry and a palm unit it seems more an artifact at the moment.
So using symmetry:
1 rise up/ 1 run either side=11/7=1/2(3 + 1/7)
1 rise up/ 2 run either side=22/7= 3 + 1/7
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.
.
280 rise up/280 run either side = 1/2(3 + 1/7)
So do these examples show intent of the ratio of 3 + 1/7 or do they show the ratio is an artifact of the rise/run Seked and symmetry?
Need to ask why your "formulae" only have even multiples(the single 1, plain 3 + 1/7 can be seen as 2 half values(1 seked either side)).
If the
X(3 + 1/7) was intended without concern to anything else wouldn't there be an odd value for "
X" somewhere?
> Thank you,
>
> MJ
>
> Formulae used are:
> A = B × 3 1/7
> A = B × 2 × 3 1/7
> A = B ÷ 2 × 3 1/7
> A = B ÷ 3 1/7
> A = B × 2 ÷ 3 1/7
> A = B ÷ 2 ÷ 3 1/7
The 3 + 1/7 reads to me as a highly possible artifact of the Seked(run/rise; i.e 4seked/7). This could possibly be replaced with 3 in Khafre's pyramid(5.25seked,(4*5.25/7=21/7=3) in conceivable "point-to-point" relations.
> Other formulae used (all less frequently than the
> above and some only once or twice) are:
> A = B + C
> A = B - C
> A = B × 2
> A = B ÷ 2
> A = B ÷ 5
> A = B ÷ 7
> A = B ÷ 10
If any of these are only once then no comparision for intent. For some(A=B*2,A=B/2) These two could be interchanged within the King's chamber, first (A=20 B=10) then (A=10 B=20), both fit the formulas. It is a simple 2:1 rectangle. This is symmetry at it's simplest(1 square either side of center) heck two simple 2:1 rectangles can be claimed for every square so it is a circular claim(i.e. the squares make the rectangle that makes the square).
So without seeing the occurences and their intent/relation to the pyramid I can only say they are coincidences(this doesn't mean that they can't be true just not proven to be meant).
Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo
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