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May 13, 2024, 6:09 pm UTC    
June 25, 2007 07:19AM
Why should the height factor of 2 * 3 1/7 be important? Just because they possibly used it does not make it "special". It is implicit in the construction of a pyramid that there it is going to have a dimension of height. 2 * 3 1/7 is no more significant than any other dimensions for other pyramids. The idea that, after hundreds of years of building pyramids, the Egyptians did not begin to see relationships between the sides, base and height and that they could not define such structures by using ratios is ridiculous. The intent is obvious in the structure itself that they wanted to build a structure with 4 sides a square base and an apex at x distance from the base. How and why they came up with the specific dimensions for any specific pyramid is largely speculation. But to suggest that building such structures did not involve a predetermined set of dimensions as part of the intent of the builders is absolutely absurd. Of course they had the intent to build the thing. It is sitting there isn't it? As for what particular dimensions were chosen and whether or not they had any mathematical significance within Egyptian cosmology is one thing. However, the relationships between the sides, base and apex of a pyramid are mathematical relationships not cosmological. The cosmological aspect is something that is assigned based on cultural perception, but does not change the mathematical nature of such relationships. One does not define the other, because they coexist as possibly related concepts does not mean one can rule out the existence of the other. Pyramids had meaning and significance in Egyptian cosmology. Pyramids also have mathematical properties and dimensions. The fact that they may have begun to understand such relationships in more mathematical terms is something that does not have any "special" significance. The only thing that is significantly special is the attempt to deny that they would have developed and understood such mathematical relationships over time as a result of practical usage. It is like trying to diminish the mathematical aspect of an overtly mathematical project or trying to diminish the architectural aspects of an overtly architectural monument because of its overt cosmological significance. If that was the case, then cathedrals could not be considered wonders of architecture because they too are cosmological.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2007 07:36AM by Doug M.
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Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

Dave L June 23, 2007 02:07PM

Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

Clive June 24, 2007 03:35PM

We do?

Anthony June 24, 2007 07:39PM

Yes WE do.

Dave L June 25, 2007 04:55AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Anthony June 25, 2007 06:07AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Dave L June 25, 2007 06:13AM

Nobody's perfect, but why not answer the question?

Anthony June 25, 2007 06:17AM

Re: Nobody's perfect, but why not answer the question?

Dave L June 25, 2007 06:38AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Clive June 25, 2007 09:51AM

Important note of clarification

Anthony June 25, 2007 10:03AM

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Clive June 25, 2007 10:10AM

Re: Important note of clarification

Anthony June 25, 2007 10:22AM

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Clive June 25, 2007 11:03AM

Re: Important note of clarification

Anthony June 25, 2007 11:50AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Dave L June 25, 2007 10:36AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Clive June 25, 2007 11:00AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Anthony June 25, 2007 11:56AM

Re: Yes WE do.

Clive June 25, 2007 06:21PM

Re: Yes WE do.

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Re: Yes WE do.

Clive June 25, 2007 10:11PM

Re: Yes WE do.

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Re: Yes WE do.

Clive June 26, 2007 07:33AM

Re: Yes WE do.

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Re: Yes WE do.

Warwick L Nixon June 25, 2007 12:27PM

Error explained.

Dave L June 26, 2007 06:17AM

Is that so?

Anthony June 26, 2007 06:26AM

Re: Is that so?

Don Barone June 26, 2007 07:00AM

"Nothing up my sleeve..."

Anthony June 26, 2007 07:12AM

Proving the inaccuracies of Anthony's statement ..

Don Barone June 26, 2007 07:55AM

Correction: Proving the Accuracies of Anthony's statement ..

Anthony June 26, 2007 08:28AM

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Don Barone June 26, 2007 08:45AM

Note to thread

Katherine Reece June 26, 2007 09:17AM

Re: Correction: Proving the Accuracies of Anthony's statement ..

MJ Thomas June 26, 2007 10:46AM

Re: Correction: Proving the Accuracies of Anthony's statement ..

Anthony June 26, 2007 12:41PM

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MJ Thomas June 26, 2007 02:18PM

Re: Correction: Proving the Accuracies of Anthony's statement ..

Anthony June 26, 2007 02:54PM

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MJ Thomas June 26, 2007 04:56PM

Rewording won't change the flaw

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Re: Rewording won't change the flaw

MJ Thomas June 27, 2007 02:39AM

Moving the goalposts won't change the flaw

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Re: Is that so?

Clive June 26, 2007 07:54AM

Re: Is that so?

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Re: Is that so?

Clive June 26, 2007 08:07AM

Re: Error explained.

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Re: Error explained.

Dave L June 26, 2007 09:07AM

Two corrections

Anthony June 26, 2007 09:19AM

Re: We do?

Dave L June 25, 2007 05:00AM

Re: We do?

Doug M June 25, 2007 07:19AM

Re: We do?

Anthony June 25, 2007 07:30AM

Re: We do?

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Re: We do?

Anthony June 25, 2007 08:37AM

Re: We do?

Dave L June 25, 2007 09:06AM

Cherry picking/Selective Evidence

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Re: We do?

Dave L June 25, 2007 09:03AM

The heated mind...

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A serious answer...

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Re: A serious answer...

Anthony June 25, 2007 07:24AM

Re: A serious answer...

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Anthony June 25, 2007 01:05PM

My answer

Clive June 25, 2007 10:07PM

Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

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Subtleties can make all the difference...

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MJ Thomas June 27, 2007 06:05PM

Re: Subtleties can make all the difference...

Anthony June 27, 2007 06:53PM

Re: Subtleties can make all the difference...

MJ Thomas June 28, 2007 01:55AM

Systemic Artifacts

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Re: Systemic Artifacts

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Re: Systemic Artifacts

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 07:30AM

Re: Systemic Artifacts

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

lobo-hotei June 28, 2007 12:56PM

Note to Lobo

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Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

MJ Thomas June 28, 2007 05:38PM

Re: Was The Great Pyramid ever finished ?

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 10:31AM

Did we ever get an answer ?

Don Barone June 29, 2007 06:51AM

Two different questions

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Re: Two different questions

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 08:01AM

Re: Two different questions

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Re: Two different questions

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Harvesting Stones from the Giza Necropolis

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Re: Harvesting Stones from the Giza Necropolis

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 02:19PM

Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

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Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

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Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 02:35PM

Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

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Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

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Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2007 12:19PM

Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

Tommi Huhtamaki July 01, 2007 12:27PM

Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2007 12:35PM

Gentlemen ...

Hermione July 01, 2007 12:15PM

Re: Finishing a pyramid, based on contextual evidence

MJ Thomas June 29, 2007 02:07PM

What's the point?

Anthony June 29, 2007 02:46PM

Re: What's the point?

Tommi Huhtamaki June 29, 2007 03:09PM

Not a chance

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Re: Not a chance

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

MJ Thomas June 30, 2007 04:55PM

Hi MJ ... Please note ...

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If you're looking for a precedent...

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Destroying the pyramid

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Re: Destroying the pyramid

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Re: What's the point?

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Mod Note

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