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May 12, 2024, 3:48 pm UTC    
June 20, 2007 12:43PM
Hi Anthony,


> > Can you evidence the change in ancient
> Egyptian
> > cosmology between the 4th and the 56th
> dynasties?
> >
> >
>
>
> I assume you meant 5th Dynasty... not the 56th
> Dynasty...lol.


Heheh, actually I meant the 6th dynasty! Saw it after having posted but was actually too lazy to edit. grinning smiley


>
>
> Yes. It's quite obvious that Osiris was a
> tremendously different element introduced in that
> specific timeframe. He goes from virtually
> non-existant regional vegetation god to the
> virtual centerstage character in the Egyptian
> underworld.


Vegetation god? Can you showe me evidence of Osiris being a vegetation god?

If you look at the bulk of the PTs, you'll quickly notice that it seems to be written in the frame of the events seen in the sky, such the heliacal rise of the stars, the sun setting down etc. Can you tell me how those events and the AE way of describing them changed?




>
> The entire city of Iunu seems to have risen up
> between the Third and Fifth Dynasties. That must
> have had a tremendous impact on the evolution of
> theology at that time. Isis is virtually unknown
> before the Fifth Dynasty... yet she is a major
> player by the time of the Pyramid Texts.


I'm not sure I agree with you. Not completely. While it is true, that Isis makes her first appearance in the PTs, the very detail she is identified with, Sopdet, does not. Sopdet goes much further back than that. Does the fact of identifying Isis with Sopdet take something from Sopdet's ancinety and obviously unchanged meaning. The same question goes for sAH.




>
> Clearly, this was an enormously formative time in
> Egyptian mythological history.


What makes it so clear in your eyes?








Ritva
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