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May 5, 2024, 11:36 am UTC    
April 20, 2005 02:18AM
wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> > The difference is that to believe in God you
> have to believe that someone, not something,
> > caused the universe to be created - very
> different as one implies intelligence, one
> > does not.
>
> Well, IMHO the only different between someone vs.
> something is not "intelligence" per say but more
> like an entity or being! Since artificial
> intelligence has already been done and proven...
>
> Therefore, to be or not to be is still the main
> question!!!
>
> > Not to mention that to create something so
> complex as the universe the creator had to be
> > even more complex.
>
> Why!? What made you come to that conclusion!?
>
To me it seems self evident. A being/god/creator/power/whatever, able to create a universe, perform miracles, changing the laws of physics, beeing omniscient, omnipotent etc etc, impresses me as being more advanced as a mere universe.





> > So it's even harded to imagine his accidental
> creation out of nothing.
>
> What "his"!? The Being or God!?


What's the difference?

>
> > So it's more rational to stay at the first
> step and be "comfortable" with the
> > spontaneous creation of the universe out of
> nothing.
>
> Well, IMHO, that is completely irrational!!! Even
> spontaneous combustion requires requires the
> proper conditions...
>
> -wirelessguru1

So would, I suppose, the creation of universe. By spontaneous I meant without the divine intervention.
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Clarification of intended meaning

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