April 17, 2005 12:19PM
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As usual, you miss the point, Dave. Tonkin was attacking Alex for alleged ad hominems, missing the fact himself that part of this thread is addressing who can take over for Sagan. Carl Sagan was an astronomer and a scientist. He was also a great PR person for science. The qualities he had that allowed him to succeed in the PR area are what is lacking in Dawkins.
Religion is not "simply persistent traditional ritual." Religions evolve continually. Religion views the world differently from science.
> Science has a duty to address moral values in
> conjunction with democracy and legal structures,
> and in fact that is exactly what is starting to
> happen in the world.
Here, you could not be more confused or more wrong. Science is amoral. It has no duty to address any moral values in conjunction with anything. It lacks the morality to do so. That's part of the problem. It's religion that deals with moral values and ethics.
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