February 13, 2005 02:24PM
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Anthony,
> However, we also know that 98% of the greenhouse
> effect is based upon moisture in the atmosphere...
"The Earth’s dry atmosphere is composed mainly of nitrogen (N2, 78.1% volume mixing ratio), oxygen (O2, 20.9% volume mixing ratio, and argon (Ar, 0.93% volume mixing ratio). These gases have only limited interaction with the incoming solar radiation and they do not interact with the infrared radiation emitted by the Earth. However there are a number of trace gases, such as carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and ozone (O3), which do absorb and emit infrared radiation. These so called greenhouse gases, with a total volume mixing ratio in dry air of less than 0.1% by volume, play an essential role in the Earth’s energy budget. Moreover the atmosphere contains water vapour (H2O), which is also a natural greenhouse gas. Its volume mixing ratio is highly variable, but it is typically in the order of 1%. Because these greenhouse gases absorb the infrared radiation emitted by the Earth and emit infrared radiation up- and downward, they tend to raise the temperature near the Earth’s surface. Water vapour, CO2 and O3 also absorb solar short-wave radiation."
> Plant life tends to hold and retain water, in both
> the plant and the soil. Therefore, would the
> plantlife, in a reduced CO2 environment, not thin
> out, and as a result, release that moisture back
> into the atmosphere? And as a consequence of this
> increase in humidity, would the the moisture
> eventually have a much greater impact than CO2 as
> a greenhouse gas alone? If we cut CO2, we could
> cause the very catastrophe we are seeking to
> avoid. If these papers and models don't deal with
> this kind of data, then they certainly can't be
> deemed reliable.
"The marine and terrestrial biospheres have a major impact on the atmosphere’s composition. The biota influence the uptake and release of greenhouse gases. Through the photosynthetic process, both marine and terrestrial plants (especially forests) store significant amounts of carbon from carbon dioxide. Thus, the biosphere plays a central role in the carbon cycle, as well as in the budgets of many other gases, such as methane and nitrous oxide. Other biospheric emissions are the so-called volatile organic compounds (VOC) which may have important effects on atmospheric chemistry, on aerosol formation and therefore on climate. Because the storage of carbon and the exchange of trace gases are influenced by climate, feedbacks between climate change and atmospheric concentrations of trace gases can occur. The influence of climate on the biosphere is preserved as fossils, tree rings, pollen and other records, so that much of what is known of past climates comes from such biotic indicators."
I think the models do deal wíth the kind of data you referred to, as they quotes tell us.
If you read throught the reports, I think you will agree.
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