February 13, 2005 12:42PM
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Thank you, Stephen and Tommy, for the directionals.
You know what's odd? I really think the computer models are going to produce whatever the programmer intends them to produce.
For example, if we have them look at the effect of CO2 and how it can increase temperatures, then we will see a catastrophic model.
However, we also know that 98% of the greenhouse effect is based upon moisture in the atmosphere... not on greenhouse gasses (CO2, methane, etc). By increasing the amount of CO2 we put out, plants will (and have) thrived.
Plant life tends to hold and retain water, in both the plant and the soil. Therefore, would the plantlife, in a reduced CO2 environment, not thin out, and as a result, release that moisture back into the atmosphere? And as a consequence of this increase in humidity, would the the moisture eventually have a much greater impact than CO2 as a greenhouse gas alone? If we cut CO2, we could cause the very catastrophe we are seeking to avoid. If these papers and models don't deal with this kind of data, then they certainly can't be deemed reliable.
Frustrating how complex the models must be in order to create an accurate prediction. I look forward to finding these papers, and then hopefully to understanding them.
If I can come up with anything, I'll be sure to get back here with it.
Anthony
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
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