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Anthony

October 04, 2001 07:22AM

<HTML>I don't think the brunt of the argument was meant to point out that Schoch was wrong...

it was meant to point out that 10.5K BC was wrong... and in order to simplify the matter, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Mikey, in the same way I would defer to you on many archeological matters, I suggest you defer to Claire on this one. She's probably the most "up to speed" person on Schoch and the PI erosion theory of anybody I know.

I've also found her to be EXTREMELY level-headed, and will throw out a bad theory as soon as it shows up.

Again, I'm a rank amateur here... Claire (although she'll argue this point ad nauseum) is the resident officianado.

These are still VERY open questions, and for them to have been "tossed in" with Graham's theories (and then subsequently "tossed out") really might have been doing them a disservice. I appreciate the way Horizon tried to handle the problem of the debate... but this sentence in particular troubles me...

<b>"It has been argued by Hancock and others that the erosion was caused by heavy rainfall ............. But the erosion argument has not stood up to the scrutiny of geologists."</b>

It really makes it sound like Graham suggested the erosion problem, and professional, reasonable, sane geologists tossed it out.

As I don't know of ANYTHING to suggest that Robert Schoch is UNprofessional, UNreasonable, or INsane, this is probably countable as a misrepresentation of the actual facts.

As I stated below... the producers examined the evidence, then THEY decided GH was wrong, so they built their program around that premise. In doing so, they steamrolled subtleties... like PI erosion.

It's a common human trait. I believe Graham uses it ALL the time to make his case.

What's funny is how loudly the screaming is when "selective evidence" is used AGAINST the LC theory... not just in favor of it.

I see this as "payback" for his Piri Reis "evidence". As long as he sticks to things like that, this type of rebuttal is COMPLETELY fair play.

After all...Chris Hale isn't a "scientist"...

Anthony

(now, will you two STOP trying to be the one who gets in the last word? lol)</HTML>

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The Usual	Garrett	October 03, 2001 07:03AM
The Unusual	Anthony	October 03, 2001 07:15AM
Re: The Unusual	Peter VanderZwet	October 03, 2001 07:23AM
Re: The Unusual	Garrett	October 03, 2001 07:37AM
Re: The Unusual	ISHMAEL	October 03, 2001 08:00AM
Re: The Unusual	Garrett	October 03, 2001 08:11AM
Sadly ....	Katherine Reece	October 03, 2001 08:15AM
Re: Sadly ....	Anthony	October 03, 2001 09:01AM
Re: Sadly ....	Katherine Reece	October 03, 2001 09:50AM
Re: Sadly ....	Anthony	October 03, 2001 09:56AM
Re: Sadly ....	Katherine Reece	October 03, 2001 10:02AM
Re: The Unusual	Robert G. Bauval	October 03, 2001 09:56AM
Re: The Unusual	Stephen Tonkin	October 03, 2001 11:24AM
Re: The Unusual	John	October 03, 2001 11:44AM
Re: The Unusual	Anonymous User	October 03, 2001 11:54AM
Re: The Unusual	Robert G. Bauval	October 03, 2001 12:59PM
Re: The Unusual	Katherine Reece	October 03, 2001 01:09PM
Re: Keith & Chris...	Don Holeman	October 03, 2001 11:05PM
n/t: UK/socialism	Stephen Tonkin	October 04, 2001 12:28AM
Re: The Unusual	Anonymous User	October 03, 2001 04:07PM
Re: The Unusual	Robert G. Bauval	October 03, 2001 10:59PM
Re: The Unusual	Katherine	October 03, 2001 11:15PM
Re: The Unusual	Mikey Brass	October 04, 2001 02:10AM
Re: The Unusual	Robert G. Bauval	October 04, 2001 04:38AM
Re: The Unusual	Mikey Brass	October 04, 2001 06:52AM
Re: The Unusual	Garrett Fagan	October 04, 2001 08:55AM
Re: The Unusual	Stephen Tonkin	October 04, 2001 07:07AM
Re: The Unusual	Anonymous User	October 04, 2001 07:22AM
Re: The Unusual	Anonymous User	October 04, 2001 07:14AM
Re: The Unusual	Anonymous User	October 04, 2001 06:18AM
a correction	Anonymous User	October 04, 2001 07:50AM
Archie Roy	Anonymous User	October 04, 2001 07:56AM
Re: Archie Roy	Claire	October 04, 2001 08:26AM
possessed?	Katherine Reece	October 04, 2001 08:29AM
Re: Archie Roy	Stephen Tonkin	October 04, 2001 09:00AM
Re: The Unusual	ISHMAEL	October 04, 2001 08:02AM
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Re: The Unusual	Mikey Brass	October 03, 2001 04:01PM
Re: Interjecting Apologies...	John	October 04, 2001 01:27PM
Re: Interjecting Apologies...	Mikey Brass	October 04, 2001 04:58PM
Re: The Unusual	Robert G. Bauval	October 03, 2001 02:24PM
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Re: The Unusual	Anthony	October 04, 2001 06:37AM
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If I may interject...	Anthony	October 04, 2001 07:22AM
Re: If I may interject...	Mikey Brass	October 04, 2001 08:13AM
Interjecting Apologies...	Anthony	October 04, 2001 11:34AM
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