Home of the The Hall of Ma'at on the Internet
Home
Discussion Forums
Papers
Authors
Web Links

May 2, 2024, 3:03 pm UTC    
Don Barone
August 31, 2001 06:33PM
<HTML>Hi Duncan:

Sorry for the delay but some of us have to go to work each day. I will try to give you an answer that you will find acceptable.

Firstly you ask do I think all species will eventually die out. Well that is a difficult question to really answer but I would have to say yes I would guess that given enough time and enough Earth changes all will eventually cease to exist.

You then use an old ploy of "darwinists" to ask ridiculous questions such as "<i><b>Do you consider that when the earth was created that all the species, both past and present, were created at the same time?</b></i> You will notice that I have accepted this theory as just that a theory. Have we changed, have any animals changed , well I think I can agree to that as well. What I question and object to is the proof that is used to prove the case studies.

But let's get to the real issue to which I think we are arguing. Let's use our Giraffe to use as a test case. We have two possibilities. One it was born ( or created ) with it's long neck or through whatever changes in it's genetic makeup it grew a longer neck ( or heck I will even give you that maybe it <b>mutated</b> from a different spieces ). What I have read are various theories of how it reached for higher leaves etc. It is this logic that I object to. I find it illogical. To one such as I ( I guess in this respect you can call me a creationist ) I accept that the giraffe has a long neck, I accept THAT MAYBE it got longer due to a gentice change, What I question is the mechanics of the change.

What you "Darwinists" have to realize is that gone are the days where enlightened humans believe in a "god" with a beard creating spieces out of the mud. Our minds simply accept that there is overall design to our universe. You say that survival of the fittest and adaptation to surroundings are the major and maybe only influences to changes and new spieces. Since I only question the mechanics that you chooses to use as your proof why does it offend you and others like you when I suggest that perhaps these changes are being controlled by something else.

Did man evolve from a primate ? Perhaps but what caused the primates brain to start to think ? Where was the start to life itself. Where is the boundary between inanimate and animate ? Why does the DNA act the way it does ? Why does it replicate itself ? What drives it ? Why do the various components arrange themselves just so ? From what I have read it is claimed that it was just a random occurence that might never happen again. Well I choose to accept AS A THEORY THAT SOMETHING CAUSED IT TO HAPPEN.

Does this make me a creationist ? Well maybe but it is about time that yourside started to realize that the silly arguemnts against this old side that believed in a white bearded "god" are long outdated.

Cheers
Don Barone</HTML>
Subject Author Posted

An example of evolution

Katherine Reece August 30, 2001 04:06PM

Re: An example of evolution

Don Barone August 30, 2001 08:18PM

Re: An example of evolution

Katherine Reece August 31, 2001 12:19AM

Re: An example of evolution

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 04:35AM

Re: An example of evolution

Claire August 31, 2001 05:13AM

Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Don Barone August 31, 2001 05:30AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 05:53AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:17AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 06:25AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Don Barone August 31, 2001 06:28AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:34AM

To Mikey:

Don Barone August 31, 2001 06:34AM

Re: To Mikey:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:39AM

Re: To Mikey:

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 06:55AM

Re: To Mikey:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 07:16AM

Re: To Mikey:

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 07:27AM

Re: To Mikey:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 08:34AM

To Duncan:

Don Barone August 31, 2001 06:33PM

Re: To Duncan:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:55PM

Re: To Duncan:

Don Barone August 31, 2001 07:16PM

Re: To Duncan:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 07:26PM

My last word ... Honest.

Don Barone August 31, 2001 08:06PM

Re: My last word ... Honest.

Mikey Brass September 01, 2001 08:24AM

Re: To Duncan:

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 05:05AM

Thanks for the reply ...

Don Barone September 03, 2001 06:02AM

Re: Thanks for the reply ...

Michael Brass September 03, 2001 06:16AM

It isn't ?

Don Barone September 03, 2001 06:30AM

Re: It isn't ?

Michael Brass September 03, 2001 06:35AM

Re: It isn't ?

Don Barone September 03, 2001 07:13AM

Re: It isn't ?

Michael Brass September 03, 2001 07:17AM

Re: It isn't ?

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 07:23AM

Don - link on abiogenesis

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 08:51AM

Re: Thanks for the reply ...

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 07:16AM

Re: Thanks for the reply ...

Michael Brass September 03, 2001 07:20AM

Re: Thanks for the reply ...

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 07:29AM

Thank You Gentleman !

Don Barone September 03, 2001 08:26AM

Re: Thank You Gentleman !

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 08:36AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 07:21AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:31AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 06:53AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 06:57AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 06:46AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:11AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anthony August 31, 2001 06:41AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 06:50AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Paul Mattock August 31, 2001 07:38AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 07:51AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 08:18AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 08:27AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Adam August 31, 2001 08:32AM

LOL

Claire August 31, 2001 08:36AM

Embarrased as usual

Adam August 31, 2001 09:01AM

Re: Embarrased as usual

Claire August 31, 2001 09:17AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 08:33AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mercury Rapids August 31, 2001 12:31PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass September 01, 2001 06:27PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Adam August 31, 2001 07:58AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 08:13AM

You may already be a Winner!

Anthony August 31, 2001 12:26PM

Re: You may already be a Winner!

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 04:09AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

lone August 31, 2001 04:09PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 04:54PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

lone August 31, 2001 05:16PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Stephen Tonkin September 01, 2001 12:31AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

lone September 01, 2001 01:06AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Stephen Tonkin September 01, 2001 07:34AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Claire August 31, 2001 06:54AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 06:44AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Adam August 31, 2001 07:02AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 07:14AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Adam August 31, 2001 07:35AM

1 down 89 to go:

Don Barone August 31, 2001 06:57AM

Re: 1 down 89 to go:

Anonymous User August 31, 2001 07:04AM

Re: 1 down 89 to go:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 07:13AM

Re: 1 down 89 to go:

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 07:11AM

DNA decoded ? What a joke.

lone August 31, 2001 03:44PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

Mikey Brass August 31, 2001 04:56PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

lone August 31, 2001 05:19PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

Deano September 02, 2001 06:54PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 05:21AM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

lone September 04, 2001 11:38PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

Anonymous User September 05, 2001 11:31AM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

lone September 05, 2001 08:15PM

Re: DNA decoded ? What a joke.

Anonymous User September 06, 2001 04:16AM

Read your own definition

Anthony August 31, 2001 02:15PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

D.Przezdziecki September 01, 2001 08:26AM

&quot;Bully for Brontosaurus: and other bedtime stories:

Don Barone September 01, 2001 08:40AM

LOL I sure can Don

D.Przezdziecki September 01, 2001 10:45AM

*smiling * Not a good start ...

Don Barone September 01, 2001 12:19PM

On The Origins of Richard Dawkins

Don Barone September 01, 2001 12:36PM

Re: &quot;Bully for Brontosaurus: and other bedtime stories:

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 05:25AM

Re: &quot;Bully for Brontosaurus: and other bedtime stories:

Don Barone September 03, 2001 06:05AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

J.H.v.d.Laar September 03, 2001 11:17AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 11:57AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

J.H.v.d.Laar September 04, 2001 09:31PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User September 05, 2001 11:34AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User September 05, 2001 12:54PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

J.H.v.d.Laar September 05, 2001 06:48PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

J.H.v.d.Laar September 05, 2001 06:54PM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Anonymous User September 06, 2001 04:00AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

Mikey Brass September 06, 2001 05:11AM

Re: Evolution: Through the eyes of a &quot;Skeptic&quot;

J.H.v.d.Laar September 05, 2001 08:24PM

Re: An example of evolution

jameske August 31, 2001 11:16PM

Re: An example of evolution

Mikey Brass September 01, 2001 08:19AM

Re: An example of evolution

Don Barone September 01, 2001 08:25AM

Re: An example of evolution

Mikey Brass September 01, 2001 12:19PM

Just Curious Mike:

Don Barone September 02, 2001 10:23AM

Re: Just Curious Mike:

Mercury Rapids September 02, 2001 05:59PM

Re: Just Curious Mike:

Deano September 02, 2001 06:33PM

Re: Just Curious Mike:

Mercury Rapids September 03, 2001 09:17AM

Sure, Don...

Anthony September 02, 2001 09:04PM

Re: Sure, Don...

Mikey Brass September 03, 2001 02:17AM

Re: Just Curious Mike:

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 05:40AM

Re: An example of evolution

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 05:29AM

To Duncan and Mikey

Don Barone September 03, 2001 06:13AM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Anonymous User September 03, 2001 07:07AM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Michael Brass September 03, 2001 09:49AM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Don Barone September 03, 2001 01:59PM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Mikey Brass September 03, 2001 04:13PM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Mercury Rapids September 03, 2001 05:00PM

Re: To Duncan and Mikey

Mikey Brass September 03, 2001 05:10PM

Re: An example of evolution

J.H.v.d.Laar September 03, 2001 11:35AM



Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login