January 22, 2011 09:21PM
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1. Plato. Sure is. Im not weighing any other part of the story. Just the Atlantic navigable part. His world was Greece and maybe Egypt. The navigable part and the dead sea directly imply concrete if second hand knowledge. The story could easily have been limited to the Med (where there is an abundance of evidence about volcanos end sinking islands. Why park it out past the pillars of Hurcules?
2. Hancok-Schoch. Hi tech not for me but the seafaring part?
3. Peri-reis. Part copied from Columbus maps. And also copied from whom? It's what the possible map details show.
4. Just looking at the vinland map suggests a copy or rendition second hand. Like someone (vikings) is relating their exploits to someone with map making skills.
5. I mentioned the Chines only because in ALL of these and other stories about seafarers it is the WHO that is in question. No answer to that yet.
Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Sounds like a catachism to me. We have a problem here. NO seafaring and certainly not the transoceanic diffusion type or there was. Since the Vikings are proven sailors macthing stories (sagas) it is reasonable to think that all of the smoke from others has fires as well.
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