My apologies to Anthony for missing this thread.


Anthony Wrote:
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> Ronald Wrote:
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> > > Anthony,
> >
> >
> > The only way to understand how the AE built
> their
> > Great Pyramid is to try to place ourselves
> into
> > their minds, combined with careful study of
> the
> > remained, related evidence. Of course, the
> big
> > problem is that these minds existed 4500
> years
> > ago. I mean, can modern Man fully
> > understand/detect wich resources/modi
> operandi the
> > AE would have used/exercised in the world
> they
> > were so familiar with (and we aren't) ?
>
>
> First, your thesis is based upon a potentially
> false assumption: we cannot be familiar with
> their world. In fact, they were enormously
> helpful in leaving copious amounts of documents
> that demonstrate their worldview for us.
>
> Secondly, your methodology is a bit backwards. We
> should assemble all the available evidence and
> then imagine how an ancient Egyptian might use it
> to accomplish the tasks at hand. If you do it the
> other way, your imagination might limit the
> visibility of available resources.
>
> Ergo, these people who start with a conclusion
> don't actually tell us anything but how they would
> solve the problem.
>
> Houdin's idea of the internal ramp would never
> have come about if he had started with the
> knowledge of about thirty 60-ton granite blocks
> being halfway up in the middle of the structure.
> Most pyramid building theories begin with the
> easiest parameter, and then try to account for the
> most difficult. If you start with the most
> difficult, the core masonry should, logically,
> become a snap.
>
> A good example of this flawed methodology is the
> "roller" idea (where's Ddeden to yell at me????).
> It only works on a static, standard sized block.

Massively incorrect Anthony!!!!!!

hmm, that's not loud enough.

YOU'RE WRONG HERE ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you mean the wheel-drum idea, not the roller-under-the-sledge idea.

The whole pyramid could have been constructed using only 3 different sized drum-wheels, small, medium, large, with sandbags/sand-baskets/reed bundles/wood shims to fill in the gaps between the block exterior walls and wooden drum interior walls. The blocks could have been perfect cubes or extremely imperfect rectangles or even things like tetrahedron shapes etc. True, it would add slight delays compared to all blocks being same-sized same -shaped cubes, but not very significant, even when multiplied by millions.

I'm NOT saying the OK AE did this, I don't know. I'm saying they could have, and that I or You could do it this way, far more easily/efficiently than sledging or liquifying or levering or "alien"-ating the pyramids.

> Every course had different sizes, and virtually no
> blocks were really "square" on one end. This
> means that virtually every block had to be custom
> fit to a roller device.

Which could be done very quickly, since the shims were right there, and only 2 sides needed to be shimmed. It could have been well automated.



The pyramid had almost 4
> MILLION blocks in it... every one of them a custom
> fit job. It's an unworkable concept. Mass
> movement could never have occurred within these
> parameters.
>
> Anthony

Please review my discussions.


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>
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Quote:When it comes to Egyptology, there is no
> such thing as "The Orthodoxy". There is only an
> orthodox method for researching the past, and
> unorthodox ones that only lead people astray.