In my present attempts to research certain aspects of the Temple of Hathor's ceiling decorations I have come across another impasse. I am wondering if anyone can help me find published discussion of Coffin Text Spell 373. This is located in Vol II of Faulkner's translations, and in Book V of De Buck's transcriptions, §35 and 36.
I have looked everywhere that I can think of and
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Thanks to the links provided by Hermione I was able to find corroboration of the correct orientation, and this is in fact what we both have suspected.
In a work by S. Cauville, “Le Temple de Dendera: Guide Archéologique” pp. 34-37 – the author gives a brief discussion of the arrangement of the zodiac representations on this ceiling, and includes reference to which zodiac constellations are li
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No, I hadn't seen these pages before, although I'd seen a number of pages by Smit that have excellent photographs of the temple site. Thank you very much for this - enough here to keep one busy for quite a good while I should think.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for this, Hermione. Yes, the complex is oriented north/south and therefore the hypostyle hall, which runs at right angles to this, is oriented east/west. However, as best I can tell this doesn't help identify which outermost register of the ceiling depictions is on the east side of the hall, and which is on the west side. The drawing in Pl. 18 of Volume IV of Description de l'Egy
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Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately these are not what I am seeking. I am interested in the ceiling to the outer hypostyle hall - a drawing of which is in the Description de l'Egypte IV, Pl. 18 ("Plafond du Portique du Grand Temple"). This can be viewed via Click on "Plate Volumes", then on Volume IV, and thence to Pl. 18. You can enlarge and rotate from there.
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I am aware of several online sites that provide photographs of the ceiling decorations at the Temple of Hathor at Dendera, but I can't seem to locate any books that thoroughly cover these depictions in detail. I am specifically interested in those depictions on the ceiling of the outer hypostyle hall.
Might anyone know of any volumes that would be useful? Many thanks for any assistance.
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As Pistol has correctly pointed out, J. P. Allen translates r-sT3w as “Mouth of Ramp” (p. 429 of his PT translations). This word is found in Utt 300 §445b, and the actual glyphs can be seen in Sethe I, p. 231 -
A quick look at §445b will show that the “T3w” portion of the phrase is spelled using three V2 glyphs, and that this is followed by glyph N25, the ‘desert’/’necropolis’ determinative.
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According to Habachi, it appears that he did.
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cladking Wrote:
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> the word "ramp" isn't even
> attested from the great pyramid building age.
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Thanks again, Chris.
A number of youtube sites also give a little more information regarding this bird - it apparently is a well-known hunter in desert environments, and it also circles in noticeably tighter circles than many similar raptors - this perhaps having relevance to the protective shen ring aspect of the Horus falcon. These factors, and its notable yellow colorations, could certainly
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Thank you Chris. This is the most definitive statement I've seen thus far. This is a volume I know I've come across before, but I guess had never looked into - AND it's even freely available online. Thanks again. - Lee
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I've been trying to figure out on which species of falcon the depictions of the Horus Falcon were likely based. Anybody know of, or have, any information on this they could share or direct me to?
Many thanks.
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Thanks, but no. What you have linked to is their treatment of the Khufu pyramid. Parte V of their series deals with the Khafre structure. As I recall, this was available for a while online somewhere, but was then removed.
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robin cook Wrote:
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> - the architects worked to a 'hidden agenda'
"Hidden" to us, that is. Though I would think it was also intended to be "hidden" to those who had not been initiated into such things - if only to try to ensure that the inner chambers would be more difficult to locate by the inevitable
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It is simply a matter of the writing looking something like Egyptian hieroglyphs to the untrained eye. Our brains are ALWAYS interpreting what we see in terms of other things we have seen before. The only mystery here is why in today's world anyone would doubt the existence of a UFO presence.
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Hermione Wrote:
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> I don't know if Corinna Rossi says anything about it ...
She actually has quite a bit to say about it, and delves into a fairly thorough (and in my opinion, balanced) history of the issue.
It is yet another intriguing case of what the AE knew, and when they knew it. Rossi seems to feel that the evidence b
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Kanga Wrote:
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> Khufu's empirical triple (a good name!) is
> actually 220-280-356, which is 4 times the
> 55-70-89 triple. These are the dimensions of the
> profile triangle of the "Trial Passages Pyramid,"
> GIt, situated east of Khufu's Pyramid.
>
> 55 (the semibase) and 89 (the apothem) are
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Seems I need to more closely proofread these things I post - my age is catching up with me.
The empirical triple for the Khufu pyramid is (was) 55-70-89 - that is, the 11/14 (or 14/11) relationship multiplied by 5. In such a right triangle the hypotenuse will be 89.02247 units. The difference between 89 and 89.02247 cubits would have been essentially un-discernible - and hence the 55-70-89 em
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robin cook Wrote:
> I have come across suggestions for the use of
> Pythagorean triangles by the AE, for example in
> the layout as put forward by the late Clive Ross
Rossi (Arch. & Math. in AE, pp. 216-221) also puts forth a number of triples "possibly employed" in AE pyramid construction - the 3-4-5, 20-21-29, 8-15-17, 5-12-23 and 7-24-25. These are all "true
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Yes, there was - and I assume still is. Hawass made the claim that located in the 5th Dynasty tomb of "Mry-If-Benif" there are paintings of geese which "suggest the Meidum Geese are authentic".
I have not been able to find anything online regarding this tomb. I wonder if it is more usually known by some other name??
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All three volumes of Nina M. Davies and A. H. Gardiner: Ancient Egyptian Paintings are now available online.
The first two volumes are somewhat large at 144MB each, so may take a bit to download.
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The advice of Hermione is sound, as is that of Rick Baude to avail yourself of Gardiner's Egyptian Grammar. I assume that you own a copy of this work, as it is an absolutely essential resource for anyone entering into any level of study of AE language and thought. Using this work alone (3rd edition, revised), then, allow me to guide you for a little bit.
If you turn to p. 553 in the vocab
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robin cook Wrote:
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> So which design imperative carried most sway? I
> should say the 14/11 and 99/70 ratios.
I am, of course, partial to my own squaring the circle theory on the subject - which makes use of the 11/14 and 8/9 ratios in creating the central diagrammatic construction for each pyramid. I believe that other consider
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Pistol Wrote:
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> if the royal cubit was "most" important as a
> ""concept"" why then would they have need to
> divide the royal cubit into extremely small
> fractions?
The actual length of the royal cubit was not necessarily an absolute standard - it could and did vary somewhat from project to
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Kanga Wrote:
> It appears Petrie struggled to find the correct
> value of the cubit.
He did indeed, as further evidenced by his earlier publication on the subject "Inductive Metrology". His survey of G1 was in no small part a continuation of this effort.
> Certainly it is hard for
> anyone to accept that they changed the value of
> the cubit midstream.
I
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> Just curious whether anyone has determined the
> seked of G1's Grand Gallery? Ascending Passageway?
> If so, what are the evidentiary proofs?
From your statements I get the feeling that you are approaching the issue with the presumption that both design and construction of the slope of these passages
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> Does anyone know if any internal
> images of this tomb have ever been published?
> M&R's drawings will help me create CGI's of
> the chambers, but photo's would be a great help.
Have you tried Verner's Abusir III: The Pyramid Complex of Khentkaus?
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for your research on this – much appreciated. I hadn’t been aware of Shmakov’s comments before.
This little excursion into “itn” has been enlightening. There are evidently many levels to this question – starting with the observation that it seems it wasn’t until the MK that concern with the “disk” truly came to the fore, as evidenced by its fairly extensive referencing in
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