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Skipping the bullet points for now to consider these recent posts: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7558287 https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7558610 Creighton notes that his images are “not to scale”. Doubtlby mstower - Ancient Egypt
The clown hasn’t seen it yet. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/5/#comment-7557358 M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
What we could do with, of course, is another survey of the chamber—and we have one, in the work of Maragioglio and Rinaldi. Compare with Perring: Maragioglio and Rinaldi have placed the w3s 4 group differently, but this is not what concerns us here. What matters is that they have mapped the blocks differently Specifically, they show no block boundary at the location in question.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
mstower Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > (I have a vague memory of answering something > similar many years earlier. I will let you know > if I find it.) It was on a list (not sure which now) in 1996 . . . Probably The Ancient Wisdom Mailing List. My correspondent is gone now. https://atlantipedia.ie/samples/arysio-nunes-dos-santos/ M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Continuing my examination of Creighton’s bullet points posted here: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024 QuoteA single crew name was drawn over 2 wall blocks (see video 3). Which of course he has verified in situ. Oh, no, wait a minute: he hasn’t, has he? Photographic evidence? No. What weby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Continuing my examination of Creighton’s bullet points posted here: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024 QuoteThere is no mention in Vyse’s private journal of a ‘discovery’ of markings in LA’s Chamber. Which is not the same as his writing “I found the chamber walls perfectly bare”: the false equby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Continuing my commentary on Creighton’s bullet points, as posted (for the sixth time) here: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024 QuoteA witness from the time stated that “Faint marks were repainted, some were new” If “a witness from the time” stated any such thing, we know nothing of it. The woby mstower - Ancient Egypt
As noted, Creighton has posted a set of bullet points six (6) times at last count. The sixth appearance: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024 Continuing . . . QuoteTwo men, Vyse and Raven, explored LA’s chamber and made no report of having found a single painted sign on any of the chamber wallby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Creighton has posted a set of bullet points six (6) times at last count. The sixth appearance: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024 I will deal with these in my own time, while my patience lasts. QuoteIn his private journal, Vyse presents a Khufu cartouche with no lines in the disk and statesby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Byrd Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Those are very poor rebuttals. Not that the "Ten > > Reasons" he's responding to is an outstanding list > > of proofs, but this piece seems to be a compendium > > of "things found on theby mstower - Ancient Egypt
I find to my surprise that Das Cheops Projekt is visible (in a revised version) on the indiegogo site: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/das-cheops-projekt--2#/ It was here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/das-cheops-projekt Students of self-serving posturing will find much here to interest them. I am sure that Görlitz and Erdmann have carefully observed the requirements of copyrby mstower - Ancient Egypt
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https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1290224/pg2#pid25993382 QuoteYes, as I said, you and he have a long tradition of quoting this statement by Dr Schoch . . . Creighton’s allegation is (to an extent) testable. Let’s test it. http://www.maatforum.com/forum/search.php? . . . https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/search.php? . . . https://www.abovetopsecret.com/search.php? . . .by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have you informed Schoch that his words are being > misrepresented in print? I have assumed that this is superfluous, as Creighton has doubtless approached Schoch himself, to check the various details. M. Edited 2021-07-18 to fix typo. Edited 2021-07-18 to fix typo.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
A plank of Scott Creighton’s method in pushing the “Vyse forgery” allegation is misrepresenting those he quotes. In this case the lucky winner is Robert Schoch. In HOAX, Creighton performs this conjuring trick (p. 18 in the print edition): Quote. . . Further on in this passage, Schoch goes on to say of this mineral crystallization that it is “. . . a process that takes centuries or millennby mstower - Ancient Egypt
mstower Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hermione Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > mstower Wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > We see that the Vyse material (in what was to have > > > been HOAX II) has been consigned to two > > > appendices:by mstower - Ancient Egypt
mstower Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is not clear from the names of these appendices > how much Creighton is still trying to make of the > electoral episode. Close attention to the law as > it stood in 1807—statute and case law—suggests > that Vyse did not act unlawfully. Creighton > contributed (more vehemently than cogently) toby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mstower Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > We see that the Vyse material (in what was to have > > been HOAX II) has been consigned to two > > appendices: “APPENDIX 1 Portrait of a Fraud: > > Analysis of Colonel Vyse’s Activities” and > > “APPENDIXby mstower - Ancient Egypt
http://maatforum.com/forum/read.php?6,628912,628937#msg-628937 M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
This appears to be new (but I am not sure how new): https://www.innertraditions.com/books/the-great-pyramid-void-enigma#table-of-contents We see that the Vyse material (in what was to have been HOAX II) has been consigned to two appendices: “APPENDIX 1 Portrait of a Fraud: Analysis of Colonel Vyse’s Activities” and “APPENDIX 2 Mounting Evidence: New Confirmation of Vyse’s Deceit”. I haveby mstower - Ancient Egypt
For no very obvious reason, this has turned up in the Manchester Evening News. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/huge-new-theme-park-opening-19680334.amp M.by mstower - Paper Lens
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,340315,340697#msg-340697 M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, it will be a sad day. However, he probably > did so as there is precious little evidence for > 19,000 year old pyramids with 10,000 he can tie it > in kinda with the ice age ending.... . . . following the submersion of Atlantis. M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hans Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mstower Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Here it was 20,000 years: > > > > > https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/258580-khufu-cartouche-in-gp-20000-years-old > > > > M. > > > Maybe someday he'll suddenly discoverby mstower - Ancient Egypt
Cut through the verbiage and we see that Creighton’s response to this result is a plonking dismissal of 14C dating as such and making up science to suit himself: odd behaviour from someone who bangs on about other things being “scientifically tested”—but then I saw through his opportunistic scientism long since. M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Here it was 20,000 years: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/258580-khufu-cartouche-in-gp-20000-years-old M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
A little more on that slippery slope: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1278401/pg2#pid25641177 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1278401/pg2#pid25643078 We are invited to imagine “the mean C14 calibrated date” visibly “moving backwards” and taking “the Great Pyramid ever so slowly farther away from the supposed time of Khufu and slightly deeper into the past”—such that wby mstower - Ancient Egypt
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1278401/pg2#pid25643078 https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/22/keynes-change-mind/ Creighton, as we know, has trouble with quotes. All he has done otherwise is repeat his “slippery slope” argument, by which we may infer that this “moving” date will in due course be that of the beginning of the universe. M.by mstower - Ancient Egypt
Hermione Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mstower Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Funny how he doesn’t mention his having suggested himself > > that the pyramids at Giza “may be 19,000 years old”. > > That's strange. > > The date is specifically mentioned in Scott > Creighton, &qby mstower - Ancient Egypt
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