https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7566056
Again I see in his transcription (both versions) a three-word phase which has merit: “had red marks” (where I had just question marks).
Added:
Quote. . . an account came that Campbell’s Chamber was opened, went to the Great Pyramid with Mr Raven & Mr Hil
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Now he’s gone back to his “trussing” gibberish:
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7566056
https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-scott-creightons-the-great-pyramid-hoax-part-two
But he has not stood still: there are changes here. I notice that his “lternative reading” includes this phrase: “T
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7564383
Would discovering another empty chamber, much like the two preceding, really have been considered a “momentous discovery” at this stage? Even by Vyse himself?
Or were people stifling their yawns?
But talking it up makes the case look stronger, at no extra e
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. . . that while his later statements contradict his earlier ones, his manner has remained the same throughout.
M.
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https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1024757/pg2#pid18231209
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1024757/pg3#pid18234771
I think this is where he started writing “cache” instead of “master source”.
M.
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. . . to get Creighton to acknowledge those two dots and to stop saying (falsely) that the disc is BLANK.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1024757/pg3#pid18235075
But then he acknowledged them only to conjure a bogus argument out of them.
M.
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mstower Wrote:
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> mstower Wrote:
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> > Creighton’s procedure is Bizarro Science: he
> > posits an unobserved entity (the secret cache) to
> > explain a forgery whose empirical reality has yet
> > to be established.
>
> His “argument” has much
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Byrd Wrote:
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> I think that after awhile it wasn't bringing him
> income and he ran out of energy and ideas. I
> notice that he continues to engage over on
> Hancock, where he gets more flattery and
> attention.
He was allowed back onto GHMB temporarily (as AoM), but his current status is this.
M.
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mstower Wrote:
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> Creighton’s procedure is Bizarro Science: he
> posits an unobserved entity (the secret cache) to
> explain a forgery whose empirical reality has yet
> to be established.
His “argument” has much the same structure as this: “If there are magical pixies, then elves may be their avatars. Therefore Ambrose Bie
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Hermione Wrote:
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> I don't know of any particular problem of an
> antivirus sort with that site: it might just be
> some kind of certificate verification problem.
ATS is considered iffy for its choices in advertising and sharing details. (Someone said something about this recently, but I can’t find it.)
M.
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> > A phrase he used earlier is “master source”:
> >
> > https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1033609/pg5#pid18469685
> >
> > M.
>
> Typical fringe overblown phraseology, like "Hall
> of Records", and never any sign of this source,
> ever.
>
> I lo
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> I've missed most of this excitement over the
> years, mostly due to being stuck in the Amarna
> tarpits, not without it's own excitement of
> course.
>
> It looks, in a broad way, that what has happened
> is that Creighton has decided, for whatever
> reasons, selling books spring
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mstower Wrote:
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> Corvidius Wrote:
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> > Not being fully up to speed on all aspects of this
> > affair, I would like to know if the long and
> > detailed review on Amazon by Larry Pahl of
> > Creighton's book is correct in it's details,
>
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> Not being fully up to speed on all aspects of this
> affair, I would like to know if the long and
> detailed review on Amazon by Larry Pahl of
> Creighton's book is correct in it's details,
> specifically about a "secret stash" of Egyptian
> writings that Creighton alleges Vyse
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In a happy irony, one of the phrases he’s picked up and uses with no awareness of irony is “confirmation bias”:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,998255,998341#msg-998341
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,998255,998389#msg-998389
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,331942,331964#msg-331964
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/172788-sitchins-fo
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7564973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1286025#msg-1286025
And yes, Scott: you are blathering.
M.
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7564945
M.
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Hermione Wrote:
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> Readers might be interested to know that, in his
> entry for 16th June (Operations II: 25-6), Vyse
> states merely that "Nothing particular occurred."
Which I suggested in 2014 was a mistake—and nine years on, Creighton is still ploddingly picking over this dismal material.
M.
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This post:
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7564383
Why he has two entries for “May 8th (afternoon)” is unclear and I’m not sure they’re compatible. The journey from Cairo to Giza was not a quick one in 1837: that’s a busy afternoon.
On first meeting Sir Robert Arbuthnot: Operations (I, 239) has t
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We notice that the caption dates this drawing unequivocally to “16th June, 1837”:
This is not what Creighton wrote in his document (originally a PowerPoint presentation) “The Great Pyramid Hoax : An analysis of the private journal entries made by Col. Howard Vyse on 14-17th June, 1837 at the Great Pyramid of Giza” (PDF).
On page 29, we see that he dated this drawing to “Around 17th June
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Or was it the size of the original made it difficult?
An enlargement stripped of context gives a false impression:
Mission accomplished.
M.
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Hans_lune Wrote:
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> Now, now I think there is room for all his idiocy
> in here, plenty of space and the derision can be
> shared.
I’m not sure there’s room anywhere for all of his idiocy. Debunking a subset is work enough.
M.
Edited 2023-04-18: missing apostrophe.
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I felt that the heroic efforts of the cover artists should receive some attention. Their work is given so little respect and may even be treated willy-nilly as a reusable resource.
M.
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Not sure if you’ve noticed, but the OP topic of this thread is not Scott Creighton’s “recovery vault” nonsense.
M.
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7563510
Which bit is the query? I’m seeing a list of seven (7) questions, most (if not all) of which have been answered ad nauseam over the years. His evasions of the answers are as stoopid as this one:
Quote. . . Note: these can’t be to cross-reference or lock toget
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7563502
Hope this helps.
M.
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. . . of how Sitchinesque his statements and stratagems once were:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,333086,333172#msg-333172
His contributions to journal of record Atlantis Rising may now be had (at a bargain price) here:
https://atlantisrising.com/product/scott-creighton-4-pak-investigating-ancient-crimes-and-suppressed-evidence-from-giza-download/
M.
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. . . amounts to a rehabilitation of Sitchin’s (debunked) “misspelling” allegation: there is no misspelling now, but there was one . . .
(Just in case anyone has been taken in by his pretence to be rigorously independent of Sitchin.)
To make this material serve his agenda, he has to posit a second act (or phase) of forgery in Campbell’s Chamber. Vyse, by now (ex hypothesi) an experienced f
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Hermione Wrote:
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> I can hardly believe that we have now reached the
> point where the historiography of forum
> discussions of the forgery allegation might itself
> be a subject of interest ...
I am surprised that anyone familiar with the topic could read this statement in context and be at all puzzled by it.
Perhaps t
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7563016
Here’s a game to play. Search the page for the word “would” and see how often it appears in Scott Creighton’s posts.
I have a name for this::“Creighton’s modal con”.
Actually, no, Scott: what’s a rock-solid certainty is that if the result came up Old Kingdo
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