https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa2CCWEOd0
In which we find the following:
Quote. . . and finally, having made the necessary change, Vyse writes below the modified cartouche “Cartouche in Campbell’s Chamber” and below this he places two vertical strokes, perhaps indicating that this revised cartouche is a second revision or mark two of the cartouche he had previously had placed within Camp
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https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1298243,1298570#msg-1298570
We see even more clearly that he is merely making up a story and then insulting those who refuse to take it for reality.
M.
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mstower
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Ahatmose Wrote:
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> Could I suggest you writing your own book or at
> least an Academia article ? I suggest this because
> it appears that it is a life or death mission you
> are on to discredit Scott. (why don't you go after
> his "seed vault at Sakkara theory as well ?)
>
> regards
> db
So, on t
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562616
So, Hill copied this “around 9th/10th May” from a chamber which was opened on 27th May . . .
No. Hill copied it on 30th May. We see this in Operations (I, 291):
QuoteMr. Hill copied the hieroglyphics in Campbell's Chamber. . . .
—and in the manuscr
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/1/#comment-7551024
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562616
Why did Lepsius “bother” with it the following year? Why are you “bothering” with it now?
M.
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Deux! - 1 year ago
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/1/#comment-7551024
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7563016
That’s it? He’s suggesting (and even insisting) that those two scrappy penstrokes are Roman (or ancient Egyptian) numeral II?
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mstower
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The horse is dead, but does not know it.
https://darksidetales.fandom.com/wiki/A_Case_of_the_Stubborns
M.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562616
And yet you suppose that he did this for the journal entry of May 27:
http://www.maatforum.com/forum/read.php?6,634948,635118#msg-635118
M.
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mstower
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https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,333086,333127#msg-333127
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562616
M.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562616
Dunno, Scott. Why would you, purportedly copying the cartouche at top, end up drawing what we see at bottom?
Was the light bad?
M.
Edited 2023--04-15: pedantic full stop.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562150
On Creiighton’s farcical “editing” fantasy, I find this:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1121165,1122906#msg-1122906
What I do not find is any serious evidence or argument in support of it. All he has done is make it up and say it happened.
M
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562150
Reasons for supposing that he is wrong about the order were given going on nine (9) years ago:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,333086,333127#msg-333127
M.
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mstower Wrote:
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> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562150
>
> Really?
>
> Vyse wrote this entry in Campbell’s Chamber?
> Who supposes this, other than you?
>
> M.
I suppose that Vyse wrote this sitting at a
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7562150
Really?
Vyse wrote this entry in Campbell’s Chamber?
Who supposes this, other than you?
M.
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https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,335235,335438#msg-335438
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,335235,335508#msg-335508
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,335235,335519#msg-335519
M.
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mstower Wrote:
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> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7561645
>
> This is Creighton’s Crackpot Arithmetic: the art
> of analysing a thing (for rhetorical effect) into
> as many separate countable instances as possible.
>
> Th
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7561645
This is Creighton’s Crackpot Arithmetic: the art of analysing a thing (for rhetorical effect) into as many separate countable instances as possible.
The appeal (of course) is to a demotic grasp of probability which is notoriously poor. His certainly is. He tr
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mstower
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We recall that on the 1839 title page we see “BY J. E. PERRING, ESQ. CIVIL ENGINEER”.
Whereas on the later title pages (1840 and 1842) we see “J. S. PERRING”.
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Does Scott imagine that John Shae Perring forgot his own name for a while?
M.
Edited 2023-04-14: missing full stop.
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7561645
Really?
Has Scott forgotten how Charles Piazzi Smyth described Perring’s publication?
QuoteAn enormous folio book or portfolio, usually termed Perring’s Plates of the Pyramids, and containing many excellent lithographs of them from his drawings; but the book
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mstower Wrote:
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> The accusation, we remember, concerns the
> “opening date”. Well, the journal has the chamber
> open on May 6: open enough for Vyse and Raven to
> look into it at least. Upshot: the date in
> Operations is correct.
Correct as far as we know. A question of criteria arises: what counted as opening?
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7561173
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7560383
We see that he is still attributing this text to Vyse—“Here he tells us” etc.—despite my having explained the true situation:
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He seems to be merely repeating (with gimmicks) the waffle he posted here:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1285885#msg-1285885
A sample of my response:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1285893#msg-1285893
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1285951#msg-1285951
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?8,1285885,1285952#msg-1285
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7559964
So it was Vyse who painted this inscription on the wall—which is why the name “Hill” is there, doubtless.
This image reproduces the first photograph ever taken of the inscription shown. The photograph was taken in 1913. We may be fairly confident that Vys
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mstower
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Returning to Creighton’s bullet points, as posted (for a sixth time) here:
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/4/#comment-7555024
QuoteVyse lied about the opening date of LA’s Chamber, several times (see video 2).
If every misstatement is a lie, Mr Creighton may find a liar a little closer to home. Does he even
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mstower
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Huh? - 1 year ago
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7559664
Whereas in Void, we find this:
Quote. . . In this original version of the events of this day, there is no mention of Vyse or Raven actually entering Lady Arbuthnot’s Chamber at all, only that they “were ready for a look into” the chamber, which, of course, indi
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mstower
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He gets it right, sometimes:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,347875,347926#msg-347926
But his readings can be bizarre:
https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-scott-creightons-the-great-pyramid-hoax-part-two
As here:
QuoteMr Raven returned from the great pyramid and was pleased we were ready for a look into the room above Nelson’s, . . .
This (I submit) is far mo
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Kanga Wrote:
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> Pistol Wrote:
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> ...
> > Even though doubts have been cast related to the
> > authenticity of Vyse's discovery there's one
> > modern test that would render the issue a moot
> > point, regardless of which side is right o
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mstower
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/6/#comment-7559384
What matters here (if anything does) is this: that Creighton offers the following transcription of a sentence or so in Vyse’s manuscript journal:
QuoteMr Raven returned from the great pyramid and was pleased we were ready for a look into the room above Nelson’s
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mstower
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This is all I ever found to say about Lorraine Evans on GHMB:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/search.php?0,search=lorraine+evans,author=martin+stower, . . .
M.
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Corvidius Wrote:
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> I've never been able to read all the posts on this
> topic over the years, mostly not wanting to loose
> any more brain cells, but I do have an impression
> that Creighton is deliberately avoiding the
> propensity of the AE for alternate spellings and
> spelling errors. This goes with it being
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mstower
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