Corvidius Wrote:
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> Thanks for providing these examples of horizontal
> cartouches from the 4th Dynasty. I knew they
> existed, but could not lay my hands on linkable
> examples.
>
> What it seems Creighton is doing then is taking
> Möller somewhat out of context, and why use a book
> that is over a hundred y
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. . . there are horizontal cartouches of Seneferu, clearly of his reign (Figures 49 and 50):
https://www.almendron.com/artehistoria/arte/culturas/egyptian-art-in-age-of-the-pyramids/royal-reliefs/
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Vyse got around, obviously.
Looks like the original source is Plate XX in Fakhry, The Monuments of Sneferu at Dahshur, Volume I, The Bent Pyramid. These are cropped, with a new caption.
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http://giza.fas.harvard.edu/photos/88319/full/
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/551054
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http://www.gizapyramids.org/static/pdf%20library/smith_jnes_11_1952.pdf#page=2
http://www.gizapyramids.org/static/pdf%20library/giza_mastabas/giza_mastabas_3/figures_1_to_25.pdf#page=13
http://www.gizapyramids.org/static/pdf%20library/giza_mastabas/giza_mastabas_3/plates_1_to_12.pdf#page=7
We may also wish to consider what appear to be apr names in horizontal format based on the Golden H
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It has to be admitted that Scott Sitchin, sorry, Creighton, has taken pseudo-erudition in the Sitchin manner to a whole new level.
I am entirely in sympathy with anyone who loses all patience with his utter charlatanism.
Now he’s traducing Möller again. I’ve had things to say about that before now:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,331942,332466#msg-332466
https://grahamhan
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7568694
Really, Scott: is “when at Giza in 1837” the best you can do? He was at Giza for months. Can’t you be more precise?
Or have you chosen not to be?
Are you going to show us that Vyse “knew the Khufu cartouche” when he first went to Giza? Are you going to sh
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Creighton also assumes that writings of this genre were invariably written from right to left, a contention that was refuted five (5) years ago:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1136587,1136778#msg-1136778
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1149177,1149570#msg-1149570
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1149177,1152282#msg-1152282
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mstower Wrote:
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> This rubbish again:
>
> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7568694
>
> Already addressed here. I repeat:
>
> The question of the numerals was
> discussed at length in this thread:
>
> https:/
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This rubbish again:
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7568694
Already addressed here. I repeat:
The question of the numerals was discussed at length in this thread:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1136587,1136587#msg-1136587
There is also (inter alia) this:
https://grahamhancoc
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Hermione Wrote:
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> See also these archive comments.
Also this one (again):
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1058056,1058074#msg-1058074
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7568694
So good to have the assurance of the world’s leading self-appointed expert that contamination is never a real issue in 14C dating.
Sorry, Scott, but I can’t help noticing that in empirical reality it’s the fringe has howled and thrown tantrums over radiocarbon
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mstower Wrote:
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> Now he’s gone back to his “trussing” gibberish:
>
> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/7/#comment-7566056
>
> https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-scott-creightons-the-great-pyramid-hoax-part-two
>
> But he h
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Also this:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1075032,1181065#msg-1181065
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7566919
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1165482,1178587#msg-1178587
Readers will have theiir own responses to the spectacle of Scott Creighton posing as an expert on ancient Egyptian script. Some of us will remember this: the difference now is that he does
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We may note in passing that the arrangement of characters within the cartouche is as we see in the cursive inscriptions in the pyramid i.e. the final character is the quail chick (phonetic w).
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mstower Wrote:
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> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7566433
>
> Still making up your own Egyptology?
>
> Now try it with hieroglyphs.
>
> M.
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoa
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Funny how Scott’s pious denunciations of crooks did not extend to these particular crooks.
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Saeed/Saied posted this on Facebook.
There was a post linking to this, but it is not there now.
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7567485
Exactly so. We are asked to believe that conspiracy theorists would quietly accept such an outcome. Experience says otherwise: they would find a way to dismiss the result.
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Such misstatements are multiply unfortunate. The charlatans will seize on them, in a fallacy to which Creighton is notably prone: the hypocrite’s appeal to authority.
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mstower Wrote:
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> mstower Wrote:
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> > What do we call such a statement when the truth of
> > the matter has been explained to its author so often
> > and so carefully?
> >
> > “Legal duncehood” is the best could be said of
> it.
> >
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7566919
The report Creighton cites is dated “27 Nov 2013”; I said what needed saying just four days later:
https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,329195,329216#msg-329216
His assertion that Saeed’s inane remark about “the style of writing used” is “backed up by
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mstower Wrote:
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> What do we call such a statement when the truth of
> the matter has been explained to its author so often
> and so carefully?
>
> “Legal duncehood” is the best could be said of it.
>
> M.
Not addressed directly to Creighton, but he was a participant in the discussion:
https://grahamhancoc
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What do we call such a statement when the truth of the matter has been explained to its author so often and so carefully?
“Legal duncehood” is the best could be said of it.
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I think the word is “Stones”:
Quote. . . an account came that Campbell’s Chamber was opened, went to the Great Pyramid with Mr Raven & Mr Hill, inspected the North Front, went into Campbell’s Chamber which is roofed like the Queen’s. The Slabs forming the roof are 11 in number on each side, ×12.3 long; the granite Blocks of the floor ?the reverse of Lady Arbuthnot’s ceiling are 8 in numbe
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7566433
Still making up your own Egyptology?
Now try it with hieroglyphs.
M.
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I am going to add two more of the words he suggests—“also” and “by”—as I see the possibility of a phrase which makes sense in context: “probably also shaken by Blasting”:
Quote. . . an account came that Campbell’s Chamber was opened, went to the Great Pyramid with Mr Raven & Mr Hill, inspected the North Front, went into Campbell’s Chamber which is roofed like the Queen’s. The Slabs formin
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We note that Scott credits the picture to himself.
So he went to Stoke Place to make sure it had fireplaces? When (I wonder) did he do this? Did he and Louise hold a séance there?
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https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/365153-the-great-pyramid-hoax-episode3-signs-of-the-crime/page/8/#comment-7566321
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1024757/pg3#pid18235030
Still not seeing the explanation, Scott. Allow me to offer one: he tripped on a wonky floor and dropped the journal into a box:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g499486-d258891-r2
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