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April 18, 2024, 11:38 pm UTC    
April 21, 2023 11:59AM
mstower Wrote:
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> Corvidius Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Not being fully up to speed on all aspects of this
> > affair, I would like to know if the long and
> > detailed review on Amazon by Larry Pahl of
> > Creighton's book is correct in it's details,
> > specifically about a "secret stash" of Egyptian
> > writings that Creighton alleges Vyse had found,
> > thus enabling him to know the Horus name of Khufu.
> > I have not read Creighton's book, and am unlikely
> > to, so while Pahl's critique looks very damning,
> > in fact it seems as if it should shut the lid on
> > all of this, I don't know if his critique is the
> > real deal, and I certainly do not for one second
> > believe there was a "secret stash". I do though
> > suspect that if Pahl was wrong about some aspects
> > of Creighton, he would have had his review removed
> > and, if he lived in the UK, be in court for libel,
> > but his review has been up since August 2021.
> >
> > It would seem to me that cutting through all the
> > verbiage and chaff tipped out by Creighton, if one
> > of his main contentions, perhaps, I don't know,
> > the central pillar, being this "secret stash",
> > then as this is clearly an unevidenced device
> > invented to produce a fantasy story, he should be
> > laughed out of town on this point alone.
>
> The short answer would be “yes”.
>
> Pahl writes “secret stash”; Creighton (in HOAX)
> wrote “secret cache”.
>
> One thing Pahl does not mention is that Creighton
> lifted the idea, from the late Alan F. Alford:
>
> https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1070017,1070452#msg-1070452
>
> https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/328787-who-sold-vyse-red-paint/page/4/#comment-6770780
>
> https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread998893/pg10#pid17649107
>
> Creighton’s procedure is Bizarro Science: he
> posits an unobserved entity (the secret cache) to
> explain a forgery whose empirical reality has yet
> to be established.
>
> I disagree with Pahl on “testing the paint” being
> warranted or useful:
>
> http://www.maatforum.com/forum/read.php?6,634948,635058#msg-635058
>
> M.

A phrase he used earlier is “master source”:

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1033609/pg5#pid18469685

M.
Subject Author Posted

The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Hermione March 29, 2023 09:30AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

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Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

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Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

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Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

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Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

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mstower April 17, 2023 04:40AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Ahatmose April 17, 2023 01:24PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Hans_lune April 17, 2023 10:37PM

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Hermione April 07, 2023 08:01AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower March 29, 2023 05:47PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower March 30, 2023 09:11AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower March 30, 2023 02:16PM

Humphries Brewer and Walter Allen

Hermione April 18, 2023 09:16AM

Re: Humphries Brewer and Walter Allen

Hermione April 19, 2023 04:10PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower March 31, 2023 10:18AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Hermione March 31, 2023 02:33PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower March 31, 2023 06:24PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Hermione April 01, 2023 05:19AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 01, 2023 05:08PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 02, 2023 08:59AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Hermione April 02, 2023 10:26AM

The Art of Spurious Argument:: Creighton’s Adventures in Confirmation Bias

mstower April 03, 2023 01:19PM

Also in a photograph (captured from video)

mstower March 08, 2024 08:56PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Corvidius April 07, 2023 05:27AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 07, 2023 02:44PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Corvidius April 08, 2023 02:55AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 08, 2023 06:17AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

Corvidius April 08, 2023 07:24AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 08, 2023 09:02AM

A reminder of the effort it took . . .

mstower April 22, 2023 03:23AM

Who spotted it, Creighton?

mstower April 08, 2023 02:42PM

The good, the bad and the ugly: Creighton’s adventures in transcription

mstower April 09, 2023 08:54AM

Huh?

mstower April 09, 2023 09:58AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton) - YT video, 17:51

mstower April 10, 2023 09:05AM

A question of criteria

mstower April 13, 2023 12:20PM

Re: A question of criteria

Hermione April 13, 2023 02:52PM

A nothingburger animated

mstower April 10, 2023 07:14PM

One he did earlier

mstower April 10, 2023 07:17PM

Surid Missing his Mummies

Hermione April 11, 2023 08:57AM

A clue for the clueless

mstower April 12, 2023 08:07PM

Vyse’s hand forced by his own publication

mstower April 13, 2023 05:12PM

Re: Vyse’s hand forced by his own publication

Hermione April 14, 2023 02:56AM

Re: Vyse’s hand forced by his own publication

mstower April 14, 2023 04:36AM

Re: Vyse’s hand forced by his own publication

Hans_lune April 14, 2023 11:38AM

"Fairies of dreamland"

Hermione April 17, 2023 04:57AM

Crackpot Arithmetic

mstower April 14, 2023 09:25AM

Re: Crackpot Arithmetic

mstower April 14, 2023 10:29AM

Yet more of his stats based on iffy assumptions

mstower April 14, 2023 01:11PM

An odd place to write a journal

mstower April 14, 2023 02:14PM

Re: An odd place to write a journal

mstower April 14, 2023 04:06PM

Re: An odd place to write a journal

mstower April 14, 2023 05:19PM

Re: An odd place to write a journal

mstower April 14, 2023 06:33PM

Re: An odd place to write a journal

Hermione April 14, 2023 05:22PM

Scotsman living in glass house throws another stone.

mstower April 15, 2023 02:54PM

Re: Scotsman living in glass house throws another stone.

mstower April 18, 2023 04:43AM

16th or 17th: which is it, Scott?

mstower April 19, 2023 05:21PM

16th June 1837

Hermione April 20, 2023 04:14AM

Re: 16th June 1837

mstower April 20, 2023 05:51AM

Sometimes in the end it gets through.

mstower April 15, 2023 03:18PM

Re: Sometimes in the end it gets through.

Ahatmose April 15, 2023 03:28PM

Re: Sometimes in the end it gets through.

mstower April 15, 2023 03:36PM

An arduous climb indeed

mstower April 15, 2023 03:31PM

Deux!

mstower April 16, 2023 08:22AM

For any readers who might be rather puzzled ...

Hermione April 16, 2023 10:01AM

Re: Deux!

Pistol April 16, 2023 11:06AM

Also here . . .

mstower April 16, 2023 12:32PM

. . . and here . . .

mstower April 16, 2023 01:10PM

What Creighton is trying here . . .

mstower April 17, 2023 07:55AM

Re: What Creighton is tryng here . . .

Hermione April 17, 2023 08:40AM

A small reminder . . .

mstower April 17, 2023 10:58AM

You have answered this question yourself, Scott.

mstower April 16, 2023 08:53AM

Except for one small detail . . .

mstower April 16, 2023 09:50AM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

Ahatmose April 16, 2023 11:04AM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

mstower April 16, 2023 11:23AM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

Hermione April 17, 2023 06:23AM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

Ahatmose April 17, 2023 01:54PM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

Hermione April 17, 2023 03:02PM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

mstower April 17, 2023 03:17PM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

Hans_lune April 17, 2023 06:08PM

Re: Except for one small detail . . .

mstower April 18, 2023 03:01AM

Scott Creighton’s favourite word?

mstower April 16, 2023 05:30PM

What does fraud look like?

mstower April 17, 2023 01:44PM

Re: What does fraud look like?

Hermione April 17, 2023 03:19PM

Re: What does fraud look like?

mstower April 17, 2023 03:42PM

Re: What does fraud look like?

Hans_lune April 17, 2023 06:10PM

A display of bad-mannered badgering

mstower April 17, 2023 03:00PM

Re: A display of bad-mannered badgering

Hermione April 17, 2023 03:31PM

A quick one

mstower April 20, 2023 04:28AM

Let’s see if this one stays up.

mstower April 20, 2023 02:13PM

Scott Creighton’s Critical Thinking™

mstower April 20, 2023 04:07PM

Scott Creighton’s Confirmation Bias™

mstower April 21, 2023 04:45AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Corvidius April 21, 2023 06:34AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 21, 2023 09:14AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Corvidius April 21, 2023 11:07AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 21, 2023 12:09PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Corvidius April 21, 2023 12:48PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 21, 2023 11:59AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Corvidius April 21, 2023 12:41PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 21, 2023 02:47PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Byrd April 21, 2023 08:46PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 22, 2023 12:44AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Byrd April 22, 2023 11:07AM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Hermione April 21, 2023 03:26PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Corvidius April 21, 2023 03:41PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Hermione April 21, 2023 03:53PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

mstower April 21, 2023 03:56PM

Bizarro Science

mstower April 21, 2023 04:35PM

In other words . . .

mstower April 22, 2023 01:14AM

More prior commentary on his “cache” nonsense

mstower April 22, 2023 03:36AM

Alert readers will notice . . .

mstower April 23, 2023 10:30AM

Re: Alert readers will notice . . .

Hermione April 23, 2023 12:08PM

An example of talking something up arbitrarily

mstower April 23, 2023 03:08PM

Gibberish revisited

mstower April 23, 2023 04:36PM

Re: Gibberish revisited

Hermione April 24, 2023 04:19AM

Four worthwhile words

mstower April 24, 2023 05:18AM

Re: Four worthwhile words

Hermione April 24, 2023 06:13AM

Two more words and a new reading

mstower April 24, 2023 04:34PM

The final word (to complete the phrase)

mstower April 24, 2023 06:31PM

Compare and contrast

mstower April 28, 2023 05:10AM

Vyse’s journal proves flameproof (unlike Creighton’s pants).

mstower April 24, 2023 09:47AM

Re: Vyse’s journal proves flameproof (unlike Creighton’s pants).

Hermione April 24, 2023 11:05AM

Re: Vyse’s journal proves flameproof (unlike Creighton’s pants).

mstower April 24, 2023 11:29AM

On a hiding to nowhere

mstower April 24, 2023 05:02PM

Re: On a hiding to nowhere

mstower April 27, 2023 11:42AM

Re: On a hiding to nowhere

mstower April 27, 2023 01:25PM

For the 673rd time ...

Hermione April 25, 2023 12:13PM

Re: For the 673rd time ...

mstower April 25, 2023 03:04PM

Re: For the 673rd time ...

mstower April 25, 2023 04:06PM

Re: For the 673rd time ...

mstower April 25, 2023 07:07PM

Another name from yesteryear: Ahmed Saeed

mstower April 25, 2023 06:43PM

Re: Another name from yesteryear: Ahmed Saeed

Hermione April 26, 2023 03:30AM

Re: Another name from yesteryear: Ahmed Saeed

mstower April 26, 2023 04:19PM

Re: Another name from yesteryear: Ahmed Saeed

mstower April 27, 2023 08:31AM

Re: Another name from yesteryear: Ahmed Saeed

Hermione April 27, 2023 09:38AM

Goerlitz, Erdmann ... and a certain West Country civil engineer

Hermione April 27, 2023 10:42AM

Re: Goerlitz, Erdmann ... and a certain West Country civil engineer

mstower April 27, 2023 10:57AM

Malfeasance

mstower April 26, 2023 05:24PM

I told him what a mess he’d made of Alford’s idea four (4) years ago.

mstower April 27, 2023 07:16PM

Re: I told him what a mess he’d made of Alford’s idea four (4) years ago.

mstower April 27, 2023 07:31PM

More of the usual silliness on radiocarbon dating

mstower April 28, 2023 04:04PM

Re: More of the usual silliness on radiocarbon dating

Hermione April 29, 2023 03:16AM

Re: More of the usual silliness on radiocarbon dating

mstower April 29, 2023 03:35AM

Still walking backwards

mstower April 29, 2023 05:03AM

Re: Still walking backwards

mstower April 29, 2023 01:49PM

Re: Still walking backwards

mstower April 30, 2023 03:00AM

Deception

mstower April 30, 2023 01:55PM

How many times ... ?

Hermione May 01, 2023 06:23AM

Re: How many times ... ?

mstower May 01, 2023 10:23AM

We may add this example.

mstower May 01, 2023 12:20PM

Khafre architrave

mstower May 01, 2023 02:10PM

Seneferu

mstower May 01, 2023 03:05PM

Yes, thank you very much, . . .

mstower May 01, 2023 03:20PM

Seneferu in Sinai again

mstower May 03, 2023 08:26AM

Various Lepsius

mstower May 03, 2023 10:18AM

Re: Various Lepsius

Corvidius May 04, 2023 04:48AM

Menkaure

mstower May 04, 2023 07:01AM

Re: How many times ... ?

Corvidius May 01, 2023 03:29PM

Re: How many times ... ?

mstower May 01, 2023 05:56PM

Re: How many times ... ?

Corvidius May 02, 2023 02:21AM

Re: How many times ... ?

mstower May 02, 2023 02:51AM

Squash

mstower May 02, 2023 04:03AM

Re: Squash

mstower May 02, 2023 05:56AM

Re: Squash

Corvidius May 02, 2023 07:32AM

Re: Squash

mstower May 02, 2023 07:58AM

Now it’s Möller’s fault.

mstower May 02, 2023 03:39PM

Möller and Lepsius

mstower May 04, 2023 09:09AM

An invitation to the narrative fallacy

mstower May 02, 2023 07:08PM

Re: An invitation to the narrative fallacy

Corvidius May 03, 2023 02:13AM

Re: An invitation to the narrative fallacy

mstower May 03, 2023 03:44AM

Just one catastrophe after another ...

Hermione May 03, 2023 04:12AM

Re: Just one catastrophe after another ...

Corvidius May 03, 2023 11:06AM

Re: Just one catastrophe after another ...

mstower May 03, 2023 12:11PM

Re: An invitation to the narrative fallacy

Hermione May 04, 2023 04:12AM

Creighton pretends to care what “eminent Egyptologists” say.

mstower May 03, 2023 05:25AM

Scott Creighton is no Ray Alan.

mstower May 03, 2023 01:03PM

Re: Scott Creighton is no Ray Alan.

Hermione May 03, 2023 02:15PM

Re: The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3: Signs of the Crime (Scott Creighton - YT video, 17:51)

Hans_lune May 03, 2023 09:36PM

Speak for yourself.

mstower May 07, 2023 02:53AM

Re: Speak for yourself.

mstower May 11, 2023 04:38PM

“Witness M” revisited

mstower May 07, 2023 06:02PM

Re: “Witness M” revisited

Hermione May 08, 2023 04:25AM

There is certainly more to say about this, . . .

mstower May 15, 2023 03:54PM

The Great Pyramid Hoax: Episode 3 - Signs of the Crime (Extended+)

mstower June 05, 2023 02:28PM



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