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Ritva Kurittu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi cladking, > > There are numerous natural cavities within the > Great pyramid and close > to its parts. There are apparently such features > under the second pyra- > mid as well. > > > Really? What kind of features exactly? > > > Ritva In addition to thby cladking - Ancient Egypt
Of course both these structures were built on hills and there are a limited number of hills in the general area. The selection of hills is probably two fold; it makes the structure more impress- ive and constitutes a "head-start" in construction. While this region is not especially prone to the types of sinkholes as is seen in Florida where large substrate failures occur thereby cladking - Ancient Egypt
Greg Reeder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sea level has not a thing to do with the Nile > flood nor water at the Oasies nor ground water. > The Nile was and is higher than sea level and > falls from Upper Egypt down to Lower Egypt and at > the end of the Delta goes into the Med. Sea. Only > in the Delta near the sea could there be anyby cladking - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
And I still believe the top of the grotto is at 225' and is within an inch of what it was in 3000 BC. The bottom of the Nile at this point might be about 10' higher and is still just above sea level.by cladking - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
poundr17 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Don, > > The information may be found in Butler chapter 7 : > Giza in Architectural Elevation. Quote from p.123 > : 'The calculation errors are within known > eustatic changes in sea level for middle and later > Holocene times (i.e., more recent than 6,500 BP), > with or without tectonby cladking - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
Sealevel would have a dramatic impact on ground water levels since they were so close to the sea. It would also affect the rate of drop of floods (tough is not a variable). It is simply natural to base all water heights on how far it will fall to the sea. The ancients built canals and had other irrigation and hydraulic projects even in the earliest times. Herodotus claimed the pyramid buiby cladking - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
I know what you mean by secret. If you think this number is tough then try getting a good topographical may of the region. I can't cite my sources and it was a rather involved route for me but I got +225 feet at the top of the grotto in TGP. I should think that a civilization which is supposed to live in a river basin which floods to at least 125' annually would be mostby cladking - Alternative Geometry and Numerology
I can't help but think many of these passages are metaphors. They are designed to evoke emotions and derive meanings from events that occurred in the king's life. "Face behind him" may relate to the ability of the king to know what was happening around him even when it was at his back. Perhaps there was even a specific story about a display of this amazing and god-lby cladking - Ancient Egypt
cladking Wrote: > Is it possible that a few high > priests and successor > kings wrote these so some phaeroahs might have had > multiple passages > and some but a single one? ............Is there any linkage by name between any of the kings and the gods? > I'm interested in the possibility that Min/ Den is > the same. But it is fascinating thatby cladking - Ancient Egypt
rich Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I hope I didn't mislead you." > -- Not your fault. I rely on too many unreliable > sources. I sware I verified your information with > another internet source immediately... and thought > if I had 2 immediate sources, so the idea must be > common (Note: there are a lot of bad resourcesby cladking - Ancient Egypt
I hope I didn't mislead you. Let me find the passage and I'll post it later.by cladking - Ancient Egypt
It seems that as time went by the Egyptians had an increasing number of gods. The pyramid texts can be read as a sort of warn- ing to the Gods in heaven that a new God is approaching (the king's ka) and must be taken seriously. It even appears as though these might have been written taylored to the life of the specific king. This could account for the growing numbers of Gods over thby cladking - Ancient Egypt
Ronald Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Roxana Cooper Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > -Maybe the layout of the Gizamids had nothing > to > > do with *any* star or constellation! > > > Imo, it had everything to do with available, > stable substrate. > > > Ronald.by cladking - Ancient History
Don Barone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi kanga ... > > I had also worked a bit on this idea. > > Why would they do it ? > > Well a mind outside of the box might determine > that rather than allow the ground to stop the > pyramid it could go on much deeper underground, > perhaps as deep as sea level. > > Whby cladking - Ancient History
Kanga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I understood from Robin Cook's now-defunct > website The Horizon of Khufu, Butler's theory was > that the heights of the pyramids, and the heights > of the chambers in Khufu's pyramid, were > determined by their height above sea level. To me, > this is a particularly silly idea, as thby cladking - Ancient History
In light of the facts it is absurd to believe these were not planned as a whole. The simple fact that the SE corners line up on the solstice is pretty convincing proof of at least one of the purposes of these structures.by cladking - Ancient History
Rick Baudé Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not at all! Warwick asked a hypothetical question > and gave a hypothetical answer. Tommi blasted it. > I thought Warwick had a good point and was merely > expanding on it. I was asking a dead serious > question. How do you figure out who was who in the > past? No, I'm not muddying the watersby cladking - Ancient History
before the necropolis. before the mastabas and temples. What was there back before 3000BC when this area got lots more rain and the Nile Valley flooded to over 150'? The valley farmers wouldn't have had much to do, so do they all retire to Memphis and wait for the water to recede? Was this an annual event for thousands of years? What do the records say?by cladking - Ancient History
> From the article: > "With hydraulic machinery to replace human and > animal muscle, and hardened steel substituting for > wood, it is well within our modern-day ability to > perform the mechanics of constructing the Great > Pyramid. What we lack today is the motivation to > put the plan into effect and the resources to > carry it out, both abundant in ancieby cladking - Ancient History
C Wayne Taylor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi cladking, > > What blocks are 850 tons? > > If my calculatons are correct: > > 850 tons x 2000lbs/ton = 1,700,000 lbs > > 1,700,000 lbs / 168lbs/cf = 10,119cf > > Block dimensions: 10ft x 10ft x 101ft > > > > 1. Note, 2. Giza Quarter-base Solutionby cladking - Ancient History
Katherine Reece Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > All stones moved by ancient people ... and don't > forget we have tomb drawings showing the AE moving > large stones and obelisks. > > Kat > > Owner/Head Moderator > The Hall of Ma'at > Amun: Co-Owner/Co-Moderator > Contributing author to Archaeologicalby cladking - Ancient History
voyager Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where I live, the local steel mills have 350 ton > cranes moving ladles of liquid metal with ease and > safety. There is a crane in Sweden that is > capable of lifting 7560 metric tonnes! The > advantage of high-strength steels is to build the > lifting structure using fewer or lighter > materiby cladking - Ancient History
Katherine Reece Wrote: > > I used to work in material handling ... I sold > parts for 200 ton cranes all the time. > I think you're now selling modern technology > short! I believe it's only been in the last fifteen years that the truly massive cranes have been in existence. I've never seen more than a 500t lift but they can go up to at least 850t andby cladking - Ancient History
voyager Wrote: > > > > I agree that most bridges and rail beds are not > designed for huge loads but we've been able to > move large and heavy items for more than a few > generations. > > Even more remarkable in my opinion is the > reliability of their machines. Considering the > kinds of block setting rates described in the > studies, theby cladking - Ancient History
>“Utilizing the entire Indiana Limestone industry’s facilities as they now stand , and figuring on tripling present average production, it would take >approximately 27 years to quarry, fabricate and ship the total requirements.” It really should be pointed out that some of the stones that were moved and lifted on the Giza plateau are not really within the range of what we can do wiby cladking - Ancient History
> .... you do know that Cheops is > just the Greek word for Khufu right? Yes. I had forgotten the exact derivation but was aware they are two names for the same person (or god). I've actually seen six or eight other names for this person. Most are, no doubt, other spellings or languages but I don't know they all are. There really should be an effort to standardizby cladking - Ancient History
Katherine Reece Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > cladking Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > When there are so many gaps and obvious > > inconsistencies in the list of kings > > how can any of it before the last problem be > taken > > seriously? > > You aren't saby cladking - Ancient History
Katherine Reece Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > cladking Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > and when did he reign. Is Khufu the same > > individual as > > Cheops? > > Yes .... (is this a real question?) When there are so many gaps and obvious inconsistencies in the listby cladking - Ancient History
Roxana Cooper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe I have already mentioned the graffitti > on pyramid blocks naming the building > teams 'Friends of Khufu' and 'Drunkards of Khufu'. > IMO that strongly implies the > GP was being built by and for Khufu - don't you > think? Granted. Probably. But the questiby cladking - Ancient History
Thadd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > creigs1707 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Thadd: That would not be suitable to cool > the > > stone baking in the sun. There is no contact > or > > movement. > > > > SC: The so-called Galleries were apparently > > covered -by cladking - Ancient History