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May 3, 2024, 2:59 pm UTC    
June 06, 2010 09:11AM
Sirfiroth Wrote:
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> lobo hotei wrote: Of course but with a lack of
> other completely different measuring
> systems(metric, standard), as some would have
> people believe, what is known from their culture
> takes precedence in possibilities.
>
> The AE culture is known to have built with
> cubits.
>
> Do you have some information that will verify your
> statement? Because from where I sit they used feet
> and inches!

Well if you truly believe that then no amount of anything will sway you so either keep your belief or read more about the culture.

> The AE culture is known to have built with a
> Rise:Run ratio they called Seked.
>
> Wrong! a 14/11 run-rise does not equal a seked!
> The run-rise ratio is the inverse of the seked
> ratio. 11/14 * 7 palms = 5 1/2 seked for G1, 4/3
> run-rise for G2 3/4 * 7 = 5 1/4 seked G2!

Again, go read something. I get tired of those who claim their BELIEFs trump evidence and cultural knowledge.

Every run:rise(or rise:run) equals a Seked. Go reread the definition of Seked.

14p rise 11p run = Seked 5 + 1/2
11p rise 14p run = Seked 8 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/11 + 1/22 + 1/44

The first is easier/shorter. The second is accurate and longer.
Of course being it is the same ratio running opposite to other they could just as easily move the Standard(7 palm) length to the Run and still do a Seked of 5 + 1/2 only the 5.5 palm length would go up for the Rise.

Wonder why they preferred certain Sekeds with easy to remember values? Thousands of workers, few overseers/supervisors, and lots of repetitive figures,hmmmm?

> The GP has known lengths that fall within the
> error margins of whole numbers of known cubit
> lengths.
> The GP has known ratios within it that follow the
> known standardized ratios of the Seked.
>
> There are just as many standardized ratios of the
> seked as there are standardized angles! I would
> think RMP problem 56 proved there are no
> standardized seked. Could you clarify what you
> mean by standardized ratios?


You also think the AE used feet and inches.

Standardized ratios based on the standardized Seked. IOW the ratios within the construction mimics the Seked values(7palms and X palms). So multiples of 7(14, 21, 28, 777) and X (2X, 3X, 4X, 1656X).

Seked 5.5 = ratios of 14/11, 28/22, 11/7, 22/7, etc.
Seked 5.0 = ratios of 14/10, 28/20, 10/7, 20/7, etc.
Seked 5.25= ratios of 14/10.5, 28/21, 21/7, etc.

So in the GP(Seked 5.5) the 14/11, 11/7 could be expected. Now if there was 4 shafts running 14/16 + 2/3 or 25/7 then that would stick out more then 14/11 or 11/7 to me since it doesn't follow the 7/5.5 Seked values.

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo

Treat the earth well, It was not given to you by your parents, It was loaned to you by your children.
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Petrie's measurements

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Warwick L Nixon June 04, 2010 12:00AM

You've seriously proven my point.

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RLH June 01, 2010 01:06AM

Correct

Anthony June 01, 2010 11:09AM

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Warwick L Nixon June 01, 2010 05:27PM

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Jammer June 02, 2010 08:54AM

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