Home of the The Hall of Ma'at on the Internet
Home
Discussion Forums
Papers
Authors
Web Links

May 2, 2024, 12:49 pm UTC    
August 01, 2008 06:06AM
Rob Miller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> And, Pi/4 multiplied by the "parent" or
> "encapsulating" square area...
> will approximate the area of that "child" circle
> in ratio to the square.
>
> this "could" concern the RMP 50.. because it shows
> how the square and circle are seen in geometry...
> and math.... combined.

Hi Rob:

You must find a means of linking this ratio to the RMP 50.
This problem "adjusts" the width of a circle with a constant then squares the result...whereas our method is squaring the width and multiplying by the constant...pi. That verifies, in a "nut-shell", that pi was "not used" to solve the problem.

What irks me most is those who have studied this document use problem 50 to make claim that the AE only knew pi to an accuracy of 3.16+, when in fact the author didn't use pi to resolve the problem.
They can't have it both ways...
From another view it is equivalent to stating that the problem does not refer to pi, therefore the author didn't know of its existence...guilty before proven innocent.

> Ahmes didn't get 100% on the Rhind Papyrus, or
> some of the results were shown to be in error.....
> so, i don't think his solution was "the" solution
> ....just "a" solution....

Now we are getting there....good analysis.
Study the errors...they always help.
How often have you written an incorrect word or entered the wrong number in a math question. Edit the work yourself and its difficult to find the errors.

> there is much speculation as to whether AE knew or
> experimented with roots or not. Even professor
> Assem Deif has written recent articles speculating
> such...

They knew the root values very well.
As you are aware, root values can be derived from basic geometry, so why and what was there for them to expand upon?

> I was just offering what i could see via the
> geometric approach....
> doesn’t mean it applies to AE... and the RMP
> directly...

Why not?
Don't run off when you have a legitimate point...try expand with more samples to back your statements. "Simple" drawings speak volumes...you are doing fine.

> Use of Square to get to the Pi... seems legit for RMP 50.

Too vague, try rephrase in greater detail....

> i trust that should assist to better explain the
> diagram previously posted.
> good evening.

You did well Rob...excellent input.

Best.
Clive
Subject Author Posted

The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 12:16PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Jammer July 30, 2008 01:04PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 01:54PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 03:25PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 03:38PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Jim Alison July 30, 2008 02:16PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Hermione July 30, 2008 02:59PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 03:22PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 02:25PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 03:20PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 04:06PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 31, 2008 11:22AM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 31, 2008 04:23PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 31, 2008 08:10PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Dave L July 30, 2008 03:07PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 03:21PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 03:29PM

Re: The joke is on us !!!

Clive July 30, 2008 03:32PM

Re: A clarification

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 03:25PM

Re: A clarification

Clive July 30, 2008 03:31PM

Re: A clarification

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 03:59PM

Re: A clarification

Dave L July 30, 2008 04:09PM

Re: A clarification

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 04:27PM

Re: A clarification

Dave L July 30, 2008 04:52PM

Re: A clarification

MJ Thomas July 30, 2008 05:02PM

Re: A clarification

Dave L July 30, 2008 05:58PM

Re: A clarification

C Wayne Taylor July 31, 2008 04:14AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas July 31, 2008 04:52AM

Related Views

L Cooper July 31, 2008 05:41AM

Re: Related Views

MJ Thomas July 31, 2008 06:42AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

Clive July 31, 2008 11:02AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas July 31, 2008 01:47PM

Re: A clarification MK.II

Clive July 31, 2008 09:16PM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas August 02, 2008 08:30AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

Clive August 02, 2008 09:54PM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas August 03, 2008 04:09PM

**Sub-thread closed**

Hermione August 03, 2008 04:24PM

Re: A clarification MK.II

Byrd August 01, 2008 11:03AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

Don Barone August 01, 2008 11:25AM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas August 01, 2008 05:01PM

Re: A clarification MK.II

MJ Thomas August 02, 2008 06:35PM

Re: A clarification

Rob Miller July 30, 2008 04:06PM

Re: A clarification

Clive July 31, 2008 11:15AM

Re: A clarification

Rob Miller July 31, 2008 02:43PM

Re: A clarification

Clive July 31, 2008 07:53PM

Re: A clarification

Don Barone July 31, 2008 09:10PM

Re: A clarification

Clive July 31, 2008 09:19PM

Re: Approximating Area via the encapsulating Square

Rob Miller August 01, 2008 12:41AM

Re: Approximating Area via the encapsulating Square

Clive August 01, 2008 06:06AM

Re: Approximating Area via the encapsulating Square

Rob Miller August 01, 2008 01:22PM

Re: Approximating Area via the encapsulating Square

Clive August 01, 2008 10:05PM

Re: Approximating Area via the encapsulating Square

Rob Miller August 01, 2008 10:58PM

Re: SQRT2 & SQRT3 simple diagram...

Rob Miller August 02, 2008 12:08AM

Re: SQRT2 & SQRT3 simple diagram...

Clive August 02, 2008 11:33AM



Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login