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June 28, 2008 01:10PM
Hello Colette,

>>In reality it seems like “ellen” as in "Greek" is just numerology of sorts???? Is this of real value in some form of code or something? ( Just wondering) ...........<<
Yes ancient Hellenic words had a particular arithmetic value which was the sum of the value of each letter(alpha =1, beta=2, iota=10, rho=100 etc.). Important words seem to have been planed so as to encode scientific information like the fine structure constant at high energies (HELLEN: Greek in non Ionic alphabets).

>>Question: Are you thinking that because there might be possible symbology as in the Egyptians containing their banks with in a corporate base as in the perimeter of a square circumscribed by a circle which perimeter is the inverse of the fine structure constant as in all is confined with in a specific and defined value?<<
I was just thinking if the modern day Egyptians knew the ancient Egyptians were fond of the 123 number then due to it’s nature – as you mention its easy to remember 1 2 3, then it would explain why they in particular would use it.

>>but, didn't the Egyptians have a different way of counting with their symbols of flowers and bars and such? ( I have the symbols illustrated and how they were used, but, really don't remember off hand)???????????<<
Yes the Greeks also had the acrophonic numbering system: X for XILIA(1,000) but sacred knowledge was encoded in the original alphabet code, so you never know.

>>123 is a trinity in ways- also can relate to a triangle or hex as in 1+2+3=6

12x3=36 a key number in the value of hex again as in 6x6=36 and 360 degree base for measurement and use of arc, degrees minutes and seconds - so maybe symbolic of measuring time /latitude/longitude????<<
Yes we have:

1+2+3 = 6
and:
1x2x3=6

Sextant in Greek(Ionic) is exas:

EXAS(group of six) = 5 + 60 + 1 + 200 = 266
ELLAS(Greece) = 5 + 30 + 30 + 1 + 200 = 266

pi x phi / a = 3.14159 x 0.61803 x 137.036 = 266.07

We have something similar with ten that gives us the tetractyn:

1+2+3+4 = 10

DEKAS(group of ten) = 4 + 5+ 20 + 1 + 200 = 230

e x phi / a = 2.71828 x 0.61803 x 137.036 = 230.22

GP base = 230.364 m


>> Sun Venus Earth
1 2 3<<
I think astronomically the correct is
Mercury Venus Earth
1 2 3
Since Sun is zero(OYDEN)

>>I would like to ask you what inspired you to think of the Egyptians and their use of 123 or what it might have meant to them?????? Is it the confined values you found on the "fine constant structure"........?? And if so, how does that relate to the Egyptians?<<
The planning of the pyramids is based on the fine constant structure – see the original sphinx length in royal cubits, so a geometric relation to the magic 137 number could be important.

>>Or how does Mian–Chowla sequence relate or what is your reasoning that it is the 11th number in sequence?<<
I just added it for educational reasons since it was in wiki I don’t have any clue about this - well wait a minute, the 11th course of the GP boulder rows is special in height and is equal to the 10 – also giving a constant in a certain unit of measure. Now this is what I found. From all the sequence you cited:

1,3,4,7,11,18,29,47,76,123,199 there are two numbers that are very important when it comes to geodetic triangulizations : they are 123 and 76. In the Ionic dialect the name for Goddess Athena had a word-number value of 76:

AThHNH = 1 + 9 + 8 + 50 + 8 = 76

We find this number in the Parthenon planning and it encodes the dimension of the planet Jupiter.

Thus I just noticed that the boulder rows 76 and 123 of Khufu’s pyramid have exactly the same height: 26 inches


Best regards…

Ogygos
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